you accusation of addiction is a personal attack. it has no bearing on the truth of any of the claims I’ve made.
What if you buy food from someone you know murdered children to get it? It’s so obviously wrong that buying food is never an immoral act. If you are interested in having philosophical conversations, then you really need to go back to the basics. At this point, you’re trying to join an archery competition with a nurf toy. There are undeniably immoral ways to get food. Destroying the planet and torturing animals for slightly cheaper food that you do not absolutely need to survive is absolutely immoral. The reason it is so hard for you to see this is because you are an addict making excuses. Not because you are starving and need the cheapest, most despicable food.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
AIhasUse@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It absolutely does. You would be able to see it if the addiction in question was cheap animal products. Your brain is clouded by the fact that since food is required to live, then no food can be an addiction. You’re simply wrong. You and many people can be addicted to cheap, unhealthy food that harms the planet. As a result of it, you excise your own deplorable behavior.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
You’re simply wrong.
saying it doesn’t make it true.
AIhasUse@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You are right about that. What makes you wrong is what you said, not what I said.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Your brain is clouded
are you a psychologist? are you my psychologist? frankly, you are acting irresponsibly and you should consider staying in your own expertise.
AIhasUse@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It doesn’t take any specialty to see this. That’s how obvious it is. When someone is deluding themselves to this extent, it is easy to see from the outside. Spend some time with someone who is addicted to things that you are not, and you will see.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
why is the bar “absolute need for survival”?
AIhasUse@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Because if not, then you are putting your own mere 20 minutes of pleasure higher than entire lives of tight, confined, indoor, away from their children and parents, raped, drugged, mutilated while alive of animals. There is no chance that if an animal was living like this on your property such that you had to see it daily, you wouldn’t save it. As it is, nearly everyone happily hires billionaires to do it for them. Most of the time they hide behind “but I neeeeeed foooood!!!”. I’ve not given those scumbags a penny in many years, and I’m alive, I’m not rich, and I am absolutely well nourished. I’ve recently done multiple marathons.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
early everyone happily hires billionaires to do it for them.
no one hires billionaires.
AIhasUse@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You pay someone to do something for you. Whether this is hiring or paying someone for a service is just semantics. There is an obvious reason why this sort of petty rebuttal is all you are able to use as a response.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
ou are putting your own mere 20 minutes of pleasure higher than entire lives
the animal is dead long before i decide what to eat. my decision is not a value judgement on their lives.
AIhasUse@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The fact that you habitually pay people to do that animals is what causes them to do this to future animals. You understand this. It tells something that your best defense is this to excuse your actions.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
I thought we were discussing economic impacts. this seems to be an entirely different r discussion.
AIhasUse@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The factory farming industry has very significant ecological impacts. In addition to the extreme suffering and misery that it causes to sentient beings. It’s really a lose-lose.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
no one is torturing animals
AIhasUse@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Guess again. Almost certainly, you are contributing a significant portion of your energy and money to billionaires who torture animals in ways that you would be unable to even watch.
I’ve been wrong plenty before, but I would be astonished if you are capable of even viewing the atrocities that you commit. That’s how disgusting the things people hire billionaires to do in the name of cheap meat it.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
I would be astonished if you are capable of even viewing the atrocities that you commit.
i am not in your youtube video at all. don’t lie.
AIhasUse@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You hire these people because you are too ashamed or disgusted to do it yourself, that’s why you can’t ven view what you pay people to do.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
this YouTube video sucks
AIhasUse@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah. It does suck to see what the average person chooses to spend their life paying people to do to animals. It especially sucks if you are one of the people paying them to do it.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
you should give it trigger warning before you link gore
AIhasUse@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This is what most people are paying to have happen every day.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
I allowed that there may be some reason buying some food might be immoral.
AIhasUse@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s progress! You’re on a good track. Not sure if you’re the same one I sent this link to or not, but if you want to see the living conditions of the animals in the meat system are, here you go. You can judge the morality of it on your own.
youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
this YouTube video sucks
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
you should give it trigger warning before your link gore