Comment on Meta to broaden hate speech policy to remove more posts targeting 'Zionists'

• Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Zionists are not following Judaism. If you ask jewish people living in occupied Palestine

  That’s a tiny minority sect of Jews in Israel, a majority of jews in Israel support the existence of Israel, that’s why they’re there.

  A majority of Jews in the U.S. and globally also support the existence of Israel.

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  • Flyswat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ll edit the link to mention these are orthodox jews who were interviewed.

    I didn’t know how few are the Jews who actually heed their religion.

    To be noted regarding Pew’s poll is that the number of those who believe that the land was promised to the Jews does not say whether they believe they should be owning it now or it shall only become theirs once the Messiah comes.

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• WanderingVentra@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If the occupying state is dismantled, how can one live peacefully with the people who tortured you, your family and society for decades and made your life hell…

  South Africa pulled it off. But yes, it basically required dismantling the state completely from what it was. South Africa as it existed before and after apartheid are essentially different states with the same name. They got a new Constitution and everything. They still have a lot of problems with the white population having a majority of the land and money, but there’s nowhere near the violence there was beforehand. Everyone mostly lives in peace together now. It can be done.

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• 0x0@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Zionists are not following Judaism. If you ask jewish people living in occupied Palestine they’ll tell you they are in exile and are not allowed to have their country until the arrival of the Messiah, that they are simply living in that land that belongs to whoever ot belonged to.

  Zionists om the other hand are imperialist colonisers who took the land from its owners. So asking for the land to return to its rightful owners is legitimate, and this translates to the end of the existance of the state created on wrongfully seized land.

  So, per your words, jewish people are zionists who use religion as an excuse to occupy a land that is not theirs (and keep expanding with more settlers every chance they get). Also, isn’t israel supposed to be their god given country? Why would they leave?

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  • Flyswat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No, what I said is that Zionism opposes Judaism. Zionists seemingly are not religious but twist what the religion says to enact their colonial goals.

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• 0x0@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Zionists are not following Judaism. If you ask jewish people living in occupied Palestine they’ll tell you they are in exile and are not allowed to have their country until the arrival of the Messiah, that they are simply living in that land that belongs to whoever ot belonged to.

  Zionists om the other hand are imperialist colonisers who took the land from its owners. So asking for the land to return to its rightful owners is legitimate, and this translates to the end of the existance of the state created on wrongfully seized land.

  So, per your words, jewish people are zionists who use religion as an excuse to occupy a land that is not theirs (and keep expanding with more settlers every chance they get). Also, isn’t israel supposed to be their god given country? Why would they leave?

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