Comment on If Batman were real today, he'd go after the CEOs of companies, not gangsters.

• Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I like Superman Returns, and I don’t care who knows it. Brandon Routh did a fine job imo.

  I know it’s unrelated but your comment made me think of it.

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• masquenox@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I would like you to explain how Captain America and Superman are reactionary.

  I mean… c’mon. Captain America is low-hanging fruit - the correlation between Captain America and actual US behavior in the world essentially writes itself.

  Superman is a far more sophisticated representation of US-style liberalism - but, just like liberalism itself, that doesn’t make Super Cheese any less of a reactionary.

  However… we can talk about the individual politics of these characters all day long - and we’d be missing the entire point of the metaphor in it’s entirety.

  The problem with the “super hero” genre is not the individual politics of the characters concerned - it’s with how they normalize and justify the concentration of power in the hands of these exalted individuals.

  In other words - the problem is fundamental.

  He doesn’t understand the core themes of superheroes,

  I think he understand them perfectly, because…

  Zack Snyder is an Objectivist

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  • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Okay do fucking Spider-Man and tell me how “with great power comes great responsibility” is Objectivist. Rand wanted all the talented people to fuck off and leave the stupid poors to die! Spider-Man’s first arc is realising that his powers shouldn’t be used for self enrichment.

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    • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you actually read the early comics, it takes Peter a good long while to learn that lesson and he still forgot it pretty frequently. Still, his journey toward learning that lesson was a core part of his character until the writers decided to just make him a flawless Mary-Sue.

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      • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I don’t think the writers have made him perfect. His most recent movie, No Way Home, is about Peter trying to use superpowers to help his friends get out of trouble. Which backfires and causes a bunch of problems, and Aunt May dies saying “with great power there must also come great responsibility.” Seems like a pretty on-theme story.

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      • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        it takes Peter a good long while to learn that lesson

        That’s called a Character Arc. He’s a kid in the beginning.

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