Comment on Are there any games you're planning to pick up during the Steam and GOG sales?
Brickardo@feddit.nl 5 days ago
Nah, Warframe still keeps getting updates so I’ll see y’all there
Comment on Are there any games you're planning to pick up during the Steam and GOG sales?
Brickardo@feddit.nl 5 days ago
Nah, Warframe still keeps getting updates so I’ll see y’all there
stargazingpenguin@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
It’s something I’ve looked at before, and while it looks like it could be a fun game, I don’t have that much time to spend grinding! It definitely appears to be one of the more fair f2p games out there though.
MajorHavoc@programming.dev 1 day ago
I expected grind, considering it’s free and very well made. But I don’t find Warframe grind-y at all.
I do about 20% backtracking, due to playing asynchronously with a few friends, and doubling back to get them quest objectives.
Other than that, I can’t think of a time I’ve repeated a level for any reason but failing the mission or just wanting to play it again.
The grind-y aspect is there, and stuff you can purchase is there, but it all feels like “New Game Plus” mechanics.
I’ve unlocked several additional mechanics and Warframe across my play without paying for them. They’re amusing but the base game is so good I wasn’t feeling anxious for them to unlock.
I eventually bought a character pack to support the developers, and sure enough, it played just like a “New Game Plus” variant. When I did that, I finally did revisit a bunch of old levels, to try out the new game mechanics in familiar contexts.
Audacious@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Warframe is the most p2w game I have ever played, and I don’t understand how people can say otherwise. Imagine you could buy the best pve gear in a mmo like WoW instead of grinding out raids. Warframe is this and then some. Resources? You can buy that. Skip crafting times? Yes. Buy boosters to shorten leveling and item acquisition? Definitely multiple versions. And the game still creates problems and sells the solution, the classic monetization of inventory space.
The game is very good, has an amazing story, and the movement system is the best, but it’s extreme p2w if you want it to be. At its core, It is a very grindy looter shooter which is severely monetized.
stargazingpenguin@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
You can pay to get things done more quickly, but you don’t have to pay to win. It just takes more time. From what I hear from players of the game, there’s no actual gameplay advantages locked behind a paywall, only cosmetic items. They obviously want you to pay to proceed faster, but it doesn’t appear to be like some games that make free players use lower tier weapons and items. You can earn all gameplay items through grinding it out and never need to spend any money.
MajorHavoc@programming.dev 1 day ago
There’s lots of content that can be reached much more quickly by paying, but I’ve never felt any drawback taking the long way around. It’s great fun without paying a cent.
And other people buying their way to the end doesn’t affect my experience at all. They just look cool in the lobby.
Audacious@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Critical mistake thinking paywall is pay to win. There is a difference, one is locked, the other can open their wallets but don’t have to, but can. Any type of advantage that can be bought with money IS pay to win. The key word is advantage and can be applied to any view point, like ‘skipping’ and ‘easier’. A person that pays will always be ahead of a person that doesn’t, hence paying to win.
I mean, if you are trying to argue against this means you probably wouldn’t mind buying premium bullets in a video game, like a CEO, John Riccitiello, suggested. Premium bullets would be very convenient and make killing players easier! You wouldn’t need to grind levels as long with those boosts!
Rule of thumb is to ask: would paying allow me to finish the game faster? Yes means pay to win.