There’s a teenage girl who gets overly sexualized, but at the same time, it’s kind of so over the top it’s pointing out the issue that her other characteristics are ignored for it.
It’s also a film set in the 20s/30s in Italy and the Adriatic, made in the 80s, so kind of a product of the time. Apparently the dialog in other languages plays out slightly different, so the English dub might be part of the issue.
Personally, I do not think it’s over the line or gross, but some people do and it makes them not enjoy the movie.
ShaggyBlarney@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
There’s the general sexism present and the objectification/sexualization of Fio. These are both appropriate for the time period and pivotal points to the character development. You have Porco going from believing a girl can’t possibly help rebuild his plane to him fighting off a bunch of guys who can’t see past her as nothing but an object.
Snowcano@startrek.website 22 hours ago
Sorry but this is silly. It’s like someone saying, “Well the bad guy in XYZ movie was a nazi which is problematic, therefore the movie is.” Like, what?
The presence of problematic ideas is not in itself an issue. In almost any instance that Fio is objectified it’s immediately shown that it’s a flawed perspective of the characters doing it, which goes for Gina too (though she’s a badass and knows how to use it to work the people dishing it out to her). The movie’s voice doesnt endorse any of it, and if anything rejects those things outright any time they’re brought up.
Is media literacy even a thing anymore?
pleb_maximus@piefed.zip 18 hours ago
Why think about media when you just can simply label something as problematic instead?
maturelemontree@lemmy.zip 16 hours ago
Media literacy? Hush now. Sit back and relax while I play you the latest Marvel movie: Thor and The Other Guys - Ouch My Balls editions.
nullspace@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I heard Inglorious Bastards had Nazis in it which is kind of problematic.
ShaggyBlarney@lemmy.ca 13 hours ago
Im not saying these are problematic, just what others have seen as problematic. They are themes that are part of the story and character. It is silly to point them out as problematic, but people are silly.
Snowcano@startrek.website 2 hours ago
Oh yeah, my comments weren’t directed at you specifically, but at the general notion.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 19 hours ago
Anyone familiar with anime understands why an audience might not trust an anime to portray sexism and pedophilia as a serious character flaw.
Anyone familiar with Ghibli should know they’re built different and basically always have been.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Maybe vaguely in general, but you have to look at each show individually.
I’ve had conversations about One Piece before where the other person didn’t want to watch it solely because it had slavery in it, despite every depiction of slavery in the show being blatantly evil.
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
Porco and Fio’s own grandfather’s treatment of her is definitely written into the story to show what figurative pigs and chauvinists they are. IMO chauvinism is the very strong central theme of Porco Rosso.