Comment on Even Apple finally admits that 8GB RAM isn't enough
lastweakness@lemmy.world 3 months agoSo we’re just going to ignore stuff like Electron, unoptimized assets, etc… Basically every other known problem… Yeah let’s just ignore all that
Comment on Even Apple finally admits that 8GB RAM isn't enough
lastweakness@lemmy.world 3 months agoSo we’re just going to ignore stuff like Electron, unoptimized assets, etc… Basically every other known problem… Yeah let’s just ignore all that
Aux@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Is Electron that bad? Really? I have Slack open right now with two servers and it takes around 350MB of RAM. Not that bad, considering that every other colleague thinks that posting dumb shit GIFs into work chats is cool. That’s definitely nowhere close to Firefox, Chrome and WebStorm eating multiple gigs each.
lastweakness@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yes, it really is that bad. 350 MBs of RAM for something that could otherwise have taken less than 100? That isn’t bad to you? And also, it’s not just RAM. It’s every resource, including CPU, which is especially bad with Electron.
I don’t really mind Electron myself because I have enough resources. But pretending the lack of optimization isn’t a real problem is just not right.
Aux@lemmy.world 3 months ago
First of all, 350MB is a drop in a bucket. But what’s more important is performance, because it affects things like power consumption, carbon emissions, etc. I’d rather see Slack “eating” one gig of RAM and running smoothly on a single E core below boost clocks with pretty much zero CPU use. That’s the whole point of having fast memory - so you can cache and pre-render as much as possible and leave it rest statically in memory.
lastweakness@lemmy.world 3 months ago
CPU usage is famously terrible with Electron, which i also pointed out in the comment you’re replying to. But yes, having multiple chromium instances running for each “app” is terrible
nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 2 months ago
People don’t run just a single app in their machines. If we triple ram usage of several apps, it results in a massive increase. That’s how bloat happens, it’s a cumulative increase on everything. If we analyze single cases, we could say that they’re not that bad individually, but the end result is the necessity for a constant and fast increase in hardware resources.
jas0n@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Just wanted to point out that the number 1 performance blocker in the CPU is memory. In the general case, if you’re wasting memory, you’re wasting CPU.
Verat@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
When (according to about:unloads) my average firefox tab is 70-230MB depending on what it is and how old the tab is (youtube tabs for example bloat up the longer they are open), a chat app using over 350 is a pretty big deal
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
What’s wrong with using Gifs in work chat lmao, can laugh or smile while hating your job like the rest of us.
Aux@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Get a better job.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
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nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 2 months ago
It sure is. I’m running ferdium at this very moment with 3 chat apps open, and it consumes almost a gigabyte for something that could take just a few megabytes.