Listen to Knowledge Fight. It will disabuse you of a lot of the image that Alex Jones has as a “truth teller.”
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airrow@hilariouschaos.com 1 week ago
pretty biased and ridiculous witchhunt, but also Jones is probably not a “conservative” and is just playing a part of being tarred and feathered for the other side’s pleasure. He was just hired to try to make his positions look “ridiculous”. He was kind of funny and pushed some true views though
Anamnesis@lemmy.world 1 week ago
airrow@hilariouschaos.com 1 week ago
Do you have some of the main points? His role was / is basically to tell certain truths and then misdirect from more important ones. I’m trying to think of what a good analogy is on the left… a lot of the left criticizes big corporations, but doesn’t realize the big government they want to come in and regulate those same corporations is run by the same people? AJ was like a person criticizing big corporations… and then saying, here, let the government (which is run by these corporations) solve these problems… (not going to work out)
Anamnesis@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Having listened to 800+ episodes, my impression of Alex Jones is that he’s equal parts reactionary right winger and moneymaking huckster. He generally skims headlines and makes up a take that’s compatible with his “the globalists are out to get us” stuff, most of which is based in white grievance identity politics.
Take this for what it’s worth. I’m a socialist. But it’s worth listening to an episode or two of the podcast to get a glimpse of Alex’s typical stuff. Most people who have an impression of Alex as a truth teller haven’t spent a lot of time with his show.
airrow@hilariouschaos.com 1 week ago
Honestly I think you agree with him a bit more than you realize, if we reframe the discussion a bit. Presumably you think “big corporations” are out to get you, right? Wealthy people are the same as “globalists” in this discussion… so do you agree “globalists” ARE out to get you? Or do you think rich people who are “exploiting” workers are “on your side”? You don’t have to agree with everyone Jones says here, as I think he is mixing things that aren’t true with those that are, but you do like understand he’s correct on some of these things, right? Like, do you believe in “corporate conspiracy theories” if I reframe it that way? Companies make people sick so they can profit off giving them a cure? Companies messing up the environment so they can make money cleaning it up? So I guess is there any possibility of recognizing disagreements while also identifying points of agreement?
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 week ago
lol. lmao
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 week ago
What part of spreading lies so frequently that families of victims get harassed in real life is acceptable to you?
airrow@hilariouschaos.com 1 week ago
there were a lot of strange things that happened with the incident in question, I’d encourage you to do more research on the topic to see what truly happened
CaptainKickass@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Oh shit it’s the Do YoU’rE rEsEaRcH guy! 🤣🤣🤣
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I DID look into it. I woke up to conservative talk radio in high school. I ate that bullshit up. And guess what? There’s no substance. It’s endless “this is weird, must be a conspiracy/liberals/soros” with zero hard evidence. That’s why Jones got bent over in court. He ruined lives over fake bullshit with no proof.
Con artists like Alex Jones and tucker carlson HAVE to do the vague hand waving “there’s something wrong with this” talk, because if they provide a list with supporting evidence, it is easily debunked. It’s impossible to debunk a feeling. You have a feeling that something was weird about sandy hook, and you have what you think is evidence, but I can debunk them all and you won’t feel any different about it.
airrow@hilariouschaos.com 1 week ago
Well with Sandy Hook, there were videos like of one of the alleged fathers laughing and then suddenly turning serious for a camera, which led to speculation that these people were acting and not true victims. It was bizarre behavior for someone whose child just died. I get some people saying that everyone handles “trauma” differently.
like this video: inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=s-ZfxxPc0r0 (you could substitute youtube.com/ for inv.tux.pizza if you want, it’s just an adless proxy)
Other anomalies were detected like this. Certainly you can connect the dots and understand where these people are coming from in having a theory they may not have absolute proof for? Like evidence of a crime without the absolute surveillance tape that shows the crime happening? A person at the wrong place at the wrong time that a jury could convict, that kind of thing? At least do you understand the perspective such adherents of the theory have? They didn’t have “no reason” to ask questions about facts that didn’t add up, right?
what do you think has substance in contrast?