Comment on Is there any real physical proof that Jesus christ ever existed?

• bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yeah there are plenty of historians who have done good work studying this and the academia is mostly settled. Not to say there’s no controversy, but there’s definitely an orthodox opinion.

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• dandroid@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  In my experience, when it comes to debating the validity of religion, people tend to get far more emotional than other topics. People who are normally level-headed and quite logical tend to completely lose their ability to think rationally. And I mean both the people who argue for religion and against it.

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  • bastion@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Pretty clear that’s the case here in the comments on this post.

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• reversebananimals@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yep. This is one of those posts that should have just been a web search instead.

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  • frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A literature search. The web is full of rubbish.

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• frog_brawler@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s almost like Christian Scholars (people that have dedicated their entire lives to this idea) have access to write for Wikipedia too…

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  • andrewrgross@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I shouldn’t bother responding to this, but I have to point out that this weird assumption that scholars of Christianity are all Christian partisans seems pretty similar to people who say that climatologists are all biased in favor of a global warming hoax.

    You don’t think anyone goes into studying a field to challenge the heterodoxy? That’s the fastest way to get famous. Even if the rest of your field hates you, you can make an incredibly lucrative career out of being “the outsider”.

    If you don’t believe the experts, I guess it’s fine. But it’s weird when people use expertise on a subject as proof of bias to discredit expertise. It’s just such a silly thing to do.

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    • frog_brawler@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think it’s a weird assumption to assume the wiki-link that you posted is in support of the “Christ Myth Theory” (as they call it).

      Read the contents of the wiki link you sent and check all of the citations, you’ll see that the Christian Scholars that contributed to writing the article aim to dismiss the theory by citing their own books.

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  • bastion@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Kinda cringey.

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• pop@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t feel compelled to argue an interpretation. The facts are well documented and their interpretations by experts available. What anyone chooses to do with these are of no real concern to me.

  but then

  It’s weird how many people in this thread are vaguely debating the validity of the historical research into this question when one person has posted a link to a well cited article on this very very heavily studied subject.

  Well cited article aren’t proof of existenceof a man. Is spiderman real if enough people cite the comics? A group of influential people could gather and make their own circle of these myths and present it as a fact. And it isn’t fucking new.

  chronicle.com/…/the-dark-world-of-citation-cartel…

  Religions and all their influence could force a lot of heavily studied subject to be skewed for their benefit. Hell, there were studies that were treated as standard making sugar and alcohol heavily beneficial for human beings. And we’re talking about a person.

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  • andrewrgross@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I didn’t say which side I come down on. I just said that there is lots of information with plenty of high quality citations.

    I’m really happy that everyone is a winner.

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