Comment on 'Russian spy agency forgot to pay its bill’: Did a delinquent ChatGPT account expose a pro-Trump Russian bot campaign?

justdoitlater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Won’t anyone think of the shareholders?!?!!

  This is a very easy to flag, given the intelligence of the people working at OpenAI. Russian IP, political topic, high post frequency. But blocking them has an opportunity cost in identifiable dollar value, doing nothing only costs them a few pithy press releases and a “commitment to truthfulness and openness”.

  Move fast and break things, right? As long as the money rolls in… Just this time they’re breaking the fabric of reality binding society together.

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  • Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    As long as you rake in the cash quick enough, you can be rich before anyone realized that you’re the problem.

    And now you’ve got money to pay people to beat them into submission when they complain.

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    • Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Why would they pay anyone? Just turn their own AI loose to dog pile dissent

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  • justdoitlater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Indeed, thats exactly it.

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• xodoh74984@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  This is a major problem for all democracies, and LLM driven troll accounts probably do exist. But this xitter post is a fake error message. It’s clearly a troll.

  Blocking fake accounts would help with the misinformation problem, but it’s a cat and mouse game. It could ultimately give additional credence to the trolls who slip through if the platform is assumed to be safe. The reality is that there will always be ways for fake accounts to avoid detection and to spoof account verification. Making it harder would help, but it’s not a comprehensive solution. Not to mention the fact that the platform itself has the power to manipulate public opinion, amplify their preferred narrative, etc.

  The solution I’ve always preferred is the mentality the 4chan community had when I was younger and frequented it. Basically, and I’m paraphrasing:

  Everyone here needs to grow up and understand that no post should ever be presumed to be true or legitimate. This is an anonymous forum. Assume that everything was written by a bot or a troll in the absence of proof that it wasn’t.

  I think people put too much trust in social media precisely because they assume that there’s a real person behind every post. They assume that a face and a few photos gives an account legitimacy, despite the fact that it’s trivial to copy photos from a random account (2015/16 pro-Trump Facebook style) or just generate all of the content from scratch with AI (to avoid duplicate detection).

  Trust itself is driver of misinformation. On social media, people should only fully trust posts made by people they know. That is the simplest and most comprehensive solution to the problem.

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  • justdoitlater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I mostly agreed, but educating ppl in critical thinking is also not an easy task. Both strategies should be done: we need to hold the platforms more acountable and help ppl have more critical thought.

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• blazeknave@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I used to work in the industry that prevents this, trust and safety. It’s like DEI. If an individual with enough clout gives a shit and takes the time to make it happen, or if a bad thing happens and a corporation needs to make a show of caring to cover their asses, that’s when they invest the minimum.

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• NautiNolana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Yeah, we need ID verification for social media.

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  • asm_x86@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    That’s only going to stop the people who don’t want to give their ID away. If someone would actually want to spread propaganda or other trough bots they would just buy stolen information.

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