Lemmy was designed for both federation and defederation. It doesn’t make sense to blindly federate with every instance in existence, if for no other reason than some of them will be full of spam and/or illegal content.
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epl692@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
I’m confused… We’re talking about trying to make two fediverses here… That’s kinda weird. I hear your “don’t mix bleach with ammonia”… But if I see someone say that on Lemmy… Am I going to do it? How does it actually hurt me? I understand it’s hateful and offensive, but this is a free and open internet, and that is one big reason I choose Lemmy/Mastodon over twitter/reddit. It’s like the library… Have you ever seen something at the library you don’t like. An opposing viewpoint? Do we defund the library and close it because there’s a “gay comic book” in it? That happened in my area, very stupid. I come here for all my ideas, and expect to be offended by some. It’s the internet. Plan to be offended… By 9am. When you wake up at 8:55a. And it takes you 4 minutes to pick up your phone.
But then again I could be a crazy conservative or liberal or something… Don’t trust me.
Now where where the memes again.
seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
epl692@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
Illegal and spambots are one thing… I just don’t want thought police on sdf. If your reason for defederation is “I don’t like them, we should make them go away.” Then maybe we are no better then the people who say those things about us.
seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
I think that users should be able to block instances, but being able to block communities may be good enough, at least at this stage in Lemmy’s development.
Another issue with extremists is they like to orchestrate coordinated harassment campaigns against people they don’t like. If that kind of thing starts to happen (which seems likely), that would be a good reason for defederation.
“I don’t like them, we should make them go away.”
Everybody has the right to freedom of association. Nobody’s making a website “go away”. You’d still be free to go there and read their stuff on your own. I do think defederation should be a last resort, though.
epl692@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
Additional thought… If the people in the defederate camp just go and post things they don’t like… Maybe they defederate with us… Then we don’t stoop, and you get your wish? (I assume it goes both ways) 😜
Shikadi@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
This is my daily reminder that there are many people on the internet who don’t understand history. And also seemingly a lack of understanding of the word federation.
ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
All this can be solved easily if you just go somewhere else.