Comment on Holocaust Memorial Day Trust | The ten stages of genocide

• 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m saying I have no sympathy for Palestinians who can’t sympathise with other people who were forced from their homes, or Israelis who can’t do the same. They are free to dislike the IDF, but using them as an excuse to hate Jews and/or Israelis is no better than the people who hate all Palestinians and/or Arabs masking or justifying it with their hatred of Hamas.

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  • whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s not the same, because Israel are systematic colonizers. IDF acts on behalf of Israel. Sure, not all Israelis have the same political opinions, but ultimately they are living in a country that is committed to genocide of Palestinians. Lots of countries hate the United States for extremely valid reasons and I do have sympathy and ultimately agree with their hatred of Americans, even though I am one.

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    • 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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      • whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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        My disdain for the United States is not a secret nor is it an ulterior motive. It’s just the logical extension of all the atrocities that have been and continue to be committed by the US as a colonizing force and as a world superpower.

        This isn’t ancient history, Israelis have been enacting and vocalizing a plan to colonize Palestine since the middle of the last century. The idea of Zionism was around before then, but that’s when it took place. There are still people alive who survived the Nakba. The colonialism is the situation right now.

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• azulavoir@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No.

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  • whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It makes sense to support the Arabs who got displaced …if you’re a member of one of those groups

    If you’re a Palestinian

    if you’re a member of one of those groups and can’t sympathize with the other (eg … IDF)

    If you’re a Palestinian who can’t sympathize with the IDF

    …then you should get no sympathy at all.

    If you’re a Palestinian who can’t sympathize with the IDF, then you should get no sympathy at all .

    So, again, you’re saying you have no sympathy for Palestinians who dislike the IDF, who have been continuously murdering them and stealing their land?

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    • azulavoir@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Disclaimer, I’m a third party to this argument.

      As far as I can see that’s a misunderstanding.

      If you’re a member of one of those groups [Palestinian, Israeli], who can’t sympathize with the other [Israeli, Palestinian]… e.g. IDF (Israelis who can’t sympathize with Palestinians), Hamas (Palestinians who can’t sympathize with Israelis)

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      • whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Where is the “then you should get no sympathy at all”?

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