That makes no sense to me tbh. If you are trained to keep the lid down, you are alerted immediately that something is off if the seat is up - you clearly see into the toilet and see that someone forgot to put it down.
If you are trained to only have the seat down and lid up, then the change between seat up and down is not significant enough to notice and stop muscle memory to sit and fall in.
Maybe I’m not understanding you but lid down is a foolproof way to not fall in from my perspective. My wife converted to the lid down way and doesn’t complain
intensely_human@lemm.ee 5 months ago
You consider lid down to be foolproof, but I’d say seat down is also foolproof if your eyes aren’t absolutely horrible.