Did we lose our industry when the Japanese auto manufacturers entered our market? When the Koreans did?
What’s different this time?
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bostonbananarama@lemmy.world 5 months agoAmericans get cheaper EVs…
For a few years, until the American automakers go bankrupt, as you said, then the Chinese automakers increase prices 10x.
…and the legacy auto industry gets taught a valuable lesson as companies who refused to modernize go bankrupt.
What a valuable lesson, get subsidized by an authoritarian government so that you can offer vehicles below cost. Also be sure to add spyware for the aforementioned authoritarian government.
Do you even understand what below cost means? No amount of modernization will counteract it.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 months ago
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
For a few years
Yeah cause car dependency is a completely unsustainable scam.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Americans can also buy EVs from countries other than China. America can also subsidise internal EV production.
My point is that we shouldn’t give a fuck about petrol loving manufacturers.
Respond to user demand and environmental pressure.
Don’t arrogantly assume your polluting product will remain market leader.
Don’t build ever bigger vehicles just to avoid particular regulations.
Yes. Would you like some oil industry case studies?
Have you heard of R&D investment, continual process improvement and economies of scale?
bostonbananarama@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You’re literally just talking to yourself, ignoring any mention of selling below cost, which is the biggest issue, with spyware being a close 2nd.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They responded
Adressed twice.
Suggesting subsidies should be given to American EV manufacturers
Investing to lower costs.
You think US products won’t have spyware?
bostonbananarama@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You’re saying “they”, but it’s you. And no you didn’t, repeating what you said before isn’t addressing the issues.
Never addressed at all, you pivoted to the oil industry. You didn’t address the subsidies from China or the unfair trade practices.
America will not subsidize to that level, if they could, and no amount of innovation is going to combat subsidization or the unfair trade practices.
According to a Bloomberg article, China will sell EVs at under $10,000, undercutting the price of the average American EV by $50,000. Are you seriously arguing that “investment to lower cost” will reduce the cost by 85-90%? That’s simply a ludicrous assertion.
I don’t think that collecting anonymized usage data, is the same as unlimited spying going back to an authoritarian government. So no, absolutely nothing comparable.
Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Tell me you know nothing about Chinese EVs without saying you know nothing about Chinese EVs.