Comment on Biden really, really doesn’t want China to flood the US with cheap EVs

• bostonbananarama@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Americans get cheaper EVs…

  For a few years, until the American automakers go bankrupt, as you said, then the Chinese automakers increase prices 10x.

  …and the legacy auto industry gets taught a valuable lesson as companies who refused to modernize go bankrupt.

  What a valuable lesson, get subsidized by an authoritarian government so that you can offer vehicles below cost. Also be sure to add spyware for the aforementioned authoritarian government.

  Do you even understand what below cost means? No amount of modernization will counteract it.

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  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    until the American automakers go bankrupt, as you said, then the Chinese automakers increase prices 10x.

    Americans can also buy EVs from countries other than China. America can also subsidise internal EV production.

    My point is that we shouldn’t give a fuck about petrol loving manufacturers.

    What a valuable lesson.

    Respond to user demand and environmental pressure.

    Don’t arrogantly assume your polluting product will remain market leader.

    Don’t build ever bigger vehicles just to avoid particular regulations.

    Do you even understand what below cost means?

    Yes. Would you like some oil industry case studies?

    No amount of modernization will counteract it.

    Have you heard of R&D investment, continual process improvement and economies of scale?

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    • bostonbananarama@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’re literally just talking to yourself, ignoring any mention of selling below cost, which is the biggest issue, with spyware being a close 2nd.

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      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re literally just talking to yourself,

        They responded

        ignoring any mention of selling below cost, which is the biggest issue,

        Adressed twice.

        • Suggesting subsidies should be given to American EV manufacturers

        • Investing to lower costs.

        with spyware being a close 2nd.

        You think US products won’t have spyware?

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      • Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Tell me you know nothing about Chinese EVs without saying you know nothing about Chinese EVs.

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  • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Did we lose our industry when the Japanese auto manufacturers entered our market? When the Koreans did?

    What’s different this time?

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  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    For a few years

    Yeah cause car dependency is a completely unsustainable scam.

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