Comment on Biden really, really doesn’t want China to flood the US with cheap EVs

eestileib@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Arbiter@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Or cars with any level of quality.

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  • teamevil@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hey man the Toyota I drive was made in the USA, it’s great.

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    • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And yet we aren’t bending over backwards to protect Toyota.

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• Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Best we can do is a four ton truck.

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• credo@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  To that end, this means we would need to lower standards, use some forced labor, and increase taxes to increase subsidies in order to compete.

  Republicans would shoot down the subsidies.

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  • Eldritch@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No it literally wouldn’t. It’s absolutely possible to produce smaller lightweight vehicles with the exact same standards. But unfortunately we’ve all been pushed towards larger vehicles. Simply because they make more money on them.

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    • ozymandias117@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The push towards large vehicles was due to the fact that they used a truck chassis, and were exempt from safety and emissions requirements of a “car”

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      • potatopotato@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not if it’s electric

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    • andrewth09@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Unfortunately producing a smaller affordable car for the average person would fall under “lower standards” 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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    • Amoxtli@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It doesn’t matter what size car Americans build, they simply can’t compete. Larger vehicles are a cultural preference and fits the American environment.

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      • GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If this was true, the Chinese EVs could be allowed in and no one would buy them. I personally want a smaller car that can comfortably seat 5 and has additional safety and comfort features (backup cameras, lane assist, heat pump climate control, etc.). This could easily be done with a sedan, hatchback, or station wagon. The only cars that have these features that I know of are SUVs.

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      • prole@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Nah

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      • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think they’re a preference of the motor industry who want you to buy more expensive cars.

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  • redcalcium@lemmy.institute ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just producing EV versions of Honda Fit or Ford Fiesta like what the Chinese EV makers do is enough. Instead, they keep producing EVs with luxury features (and high price tags) then surprised people won’t buy them without subsidy.

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    • ShepherdPie@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’re describing the Bolt and it sells terribly here. The Model 3 outsells it 20:1 in any given month.

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      • redcalcium@lemmy.institute ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The Bolt isn’t cheap though (almost 2x of Honda Fit price), and wasn’t produced in sufficient quantity. The Chinese EV companies are somehow able to produce entry level EV models with minimal features at a price cheaper than Honda Fit and they’re selling like hot cakes both domestically and in neighboring Asian countries.

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  • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We already use slave labor in the guise of prisoners. How low do we need to go?

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  …that go straight into the landfill?

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  • eestileib@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No, I’d prefer they get used. What an odd question.

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    • jaemo@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s not really an odd question from that particular user, if you consider the context that they have an agenda; FUD and misinformation about EVs.

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