Won’t anybody think of the poor fossil fuel industry?
Comment on Renewable energy passes 30% of world’s electricity supply
qyron@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
But meanwhile, when price of energy enters negative figures, it’s the solar farms that get ordered to shut down operation.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 9 months ago
MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 9 months ago
Which still means that fossil fuel power plants loose money in those periods due to low electricity prices. Those low prices also lead to electricity storage and more electricity consumption. The later is good, when it replaces other fossil fuel consumption(usually that is).
qyron@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
I really wish that is true but I seriously doubt it. Although my country made a hard shift into renewables (hydro, wind and solar, more recently) to the point we have had entire days when those sources alone can provide the necessary energy to run the country, while fully deactivating coal centrals and only maintaining on or two gas powered, storage hasn’t been a great concern, unless we count green hydrogen as such, with a plant to be built somewhere in the near future (or not).
MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 9 months ago
There are basically three options to deal with overproduction:
The cheapest way of using wind and solar actually includes shutting done some of it at excellent days, so the capacity is enough to provide enough power at just okay days. The other problem is that storage is an issue. Right now pumped hydro and batteries are the only ways we have economically somewhat able to actually store electricity economically and both are at the expensive end. So they are usually just used to balance the grid. Hence the optimum is more in having overcapacity. The other option is to use the water reservoir of large hydro river plants, to vary the electricity production. that works rather well. The other big one is exports. As soon as a grid is large enough(continent sized), the weather matters a lot less. So you might see a lot of hvdc lines going from your country to other ones being planned, built and finished.
However most of the world is not even close to that. At 30% and a lot of it hydro, renewable electricity production is mostly just replacing fossil fuel.