Comment on Stack Overflow bans users en masse for rebelling against OpenAI partnership — users banned for deleting answers to prevent them being used to train ChatGPT

neclimdul@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’d be shocked if deleted comments weren’t retained by them

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  • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think the reason for those bans is that they don’t want you rebelling and are showing that they don’t need you personally, thus ban.

    Of course it’s all retained.

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    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Isn’t it amazing that places like this built on user support and contribution turn around and pull a “we don’t need you”?

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      • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        They think they are too big to die by now. That userbase grows like crops, and isn’t conscious of how it’s being treated.

        That’s a bit like monopolists and Ponzi scheme owners think. It works sometimes.

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  • Liz@midwest.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They have been un-deleting after they ban.

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  • cordlesslamp@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Isn’t that illegal in most countries?

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    • legofreak@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In Europe GDPR gives you the right to have all your data deleted. All you do is send in a request and SO has to remove everything of yours, not just anonymize it. There are some exceptions for legal reasons, eg where financial transactions are involved, but comments should not be exempt.

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      • Tanoh@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It is still just a “trust us” deal. They say they have deleted it, and all you can do is trust them. They could possibly get into legal troubles if it was shown they were lying, but that could be easily avoided as well.

        GDPR is ok, but much of it is based on good actors doing what they should.

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      • zovits@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Except it’s not your data anymore. By submitting any content, you transfer the rights to SO.

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      • neclimdul@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        IANAL but I thought removing non-PII mostly boiled down to risk since gdpr has big teeth. With a lot of money on the table and a licence attached to post they may feel it’s worth pursuing. They’ve probably been setting up protections for this for a while.

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  • General_Effort@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They are also retained by anyone who has archived them., like OpenAI or Google. Thus making their AIs more valuable.

    To really pull up the ladder, they will have to protest the Internet Archive and Common Crawl, too. It’s just typical right-wing bullshit; acting on emotion and against their own interests.

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