Yes, or so I’ve read. A quick search turns up the mentions, but no primary sources.
Bugs are a weird edge case for consciousness. They can learn and remember, and some like bees can do it a lot, but there’s also cases of really automatic, mindless-looking behaviors they’ll engage in. This old blog posts goes into how fruit flies respond to all noxious stimuli with a specific anti-parasitoid maneuver.
Yeah, and the problem is if you define “pain” too loosely, you’ll end up concluding plants feel pain. A Venus fly trap can close in response to an insect landing on it. That’s a response to a stimulus. Some plants release chemicals in response to damage or exhibit other responses that could be defined as pain.
You have to be really careful when using “the ability to feel pain” as a litmus test for the ethics of eating a particular organism. If you define it too tightly, you’ll conclude that it would be morally OK to eat a Neanderthal (something clearly conscious but also not human.) Too loosely, and you’ll conclude the only moral choice is starvation.
dbtng@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 14 hours ago
Yes, or so I’ve read. A quick search turns up the mentions, but no primary sources.
Bugs are a weird edge case for consciousness. They can learn and remember, and some like bees can do it a lot, but there’s also cases of really automatic, mindless-looking behaviors they’ll engage in. This old blog posts goes into how fruit flies respond to all noxious stimuli with a specific anti-parasitoid maneuver.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Yeah, and the problem is if you define “pain” too loosely, you’ll end up concluding plants feel pain. A Venus fly trap can close in response to an insect landing on it. That’s a response to a stimulus. Some plants release chemicals in response to damage or exhibit other responses that could be defined as pain.
You have to be really careful when using “the ability to feel pain” as a litmus test for the ethics of eating a particular organism. If you define it too tightly, you’ll conclude that it would be morally OK to eat a Neanderthal (something clearly conscious but also not human.) Too loosely, and you’ll conclude the only moral choice is starvation.