Comment on Mullvad VPN: Introducing Defense against AI-guided Traffic Analysis (DAITA)

• far_university1990@feddit.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No. mullvad.net/…/removing-the-support-for-forwarded-…

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  • ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s what mullvlad say. It’s not necessarily the reason why they don’t offer port forwarding.

    It was always possible for them to continue allowing port forwarding. They could use separate servers for those that want port forwarding, stopping any impact port forwarding had on those customers.

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    • sramder@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hum… this was one of the original reasons I signed up with them. I totally missed them dropping support. I’m not mad about it because I don’t torrent much anymore, but it’s still a pretty lame excuse.

      I want all my services supporting maximum fuckery at all times as a matter of general principle.

      Any alternatives that you know of?

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      • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Torrenting works fine with Mullvad in my personal experience, and will pretty much up to my current ISP speed limits (which is 200Mbps download).

        Can’t really guarantee you that it will be as good if you’re hosting your own seedbox over their VPN (then again if you’re doing that you should probably pay for a proper seedbox hosted elsewhere) but if you’ve downloade something and the just leave it seeding, it seems fine.

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      • Salix@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I personally like AirVPN. Pretty good speeds depending on the server. Has port forwarding. You can port forward and have up to 5 devices connected simultaneously. Make sure you’re using the Wireguard protocol.

        Only issue is that Eddie (their GUI) kinda sucks. Works okay on Linux, and probably same on Windows. The Android one just really sucks.

        I personally just download the wireguard configs to use.

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      • nivenkos@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        ProtonVPN has it, and Wireguard support.

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    • MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You should be using a seedbox to torrent in this age. Let the company run their business, if they don’t want to be a part of the group that allows torrents, so be it.

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    • far_university1990@feddit.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If so easy to fix issue, why not make company and fix it?

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      • ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There are plenty of other options in the market, including ones with port forwarding. It’s a very saturated market.

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• Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That sounds strange given that Mullvad works fine for torrenting in my experience.

  Also modern NAT will do deep packet inspection on common well known protocols to automatically adjust the port of your machine listed on any “here I am” messages being sent out to be an actual port on the VPN Router and to have an internal association of that port in the Router with the actual port in your machine so that connections of that port can be sent to your own machine and the actual port in it that are used.

  It’s only the pure listenner services (such as webservers and e-mail servers) were the port is pre-defined by convention and never sent out on any “here I am message” that require explicitly configured port-forwarding on the VPN Router side.

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  • ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You need port forwarding to connect on torrents. Your able to torrent because everyone you torrent from has port forwarding enabled. If you want to access more seeders, and more commonly leechers you need port forwarding. This is useful for people using private trackers that want to maintain a ratio.

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    • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I can download at the maximum rate my ISP supports and I can seed after downloading (probably only to those clients which my own client has connected to).

      However I cannot seed in a brand new session during which I did not download that specific torrent (as I just tested).

      I expect this is because, as I explained, the NAT implementation actually tracks which IP addresses your client connected to and through which VPN Router port that went so that subsequent connections from those IPs to that port get sent to the right port in your own machine, but it doesn’t support uPNP/NAT-PMP port forwarding so the bitttorrent client cannot configure on that VPN Router a static port-forwarding so that it can listen for connections from any random client.

      So if I understand it correctly it totally screws self-hosted seedboxes and if you want to give back to the community you have leave it seeding immediatelly after downloading and it’s not going to be seeding anywhere as fast since its limited to peers connected to during the dowload stage.

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