Comment on Why do people still eat beef when we know it's terrible for Earth?
CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 4 months agoYou’re saying that trying to motivate people positively to move on from meat is “push the blame away” behavior. But I think tut-tutting individuals who eat meat is pushing the blame away.
While there are some people who believe that eating meat is an absolute moral wrong, a lot of people who feel eating meat is immoral because of what the meat industry does, both to the animals and to the planet. Five thousand years ago, people eating meat didn’t support the meat industry and all its wrongs.
So considering it to be pathetic to try to effect real reduction in people’s meat consumption because the methods shift blame away from the individual meat eater seems really ironic to me, as well as completely counterproductive.
Sizzler@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
There is no positive motivation to move people away from meat. Health maybe? Shame and forcing self-reflection is one of the few effective tools.
Your last paragraph is just rubbish. That’s not what I was calling pathetic.
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Did…did you just admit that you people don’t actually believe your own propaganda about why going vegan is better?
Also, pretty objectively shame doesn’t actually do anything, lecturing at people about why they’re wrong doesn’t convince them of anything, at best they just write you off as that ass who’s lecturing at them, more often they take it as a fight signal and shut down to you completely.
Sizzler@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
Key word there is motivation. I know its 10 letters long so I can explain it if I have to.
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Yeah like how you’re pretty clearly motivated to suck at actually spreading the message because then you get to keep your feelings of moral superiority all to yourself.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Man, you are an amazing pro-meat troll.