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NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

And you are still enacting conspiracy theory 101. You have a questionable fact that you are going to keep drilling down on and use to justify every single claim you have. But you completely ignore why suicide rates might be higher for people in a whistleblower situation or why people might be at heightened risk of medical complications in 2024. And why that may also have a link to deciding to throw away a career in the interest of the public good.

And the worst part? This will do exactly what every other nutbrain conspiracy theory does. It provides incredibly easy to refute accusations and then undermines anyone who actually cares about how much boeing knowingly allowed. Because all the people who will point out exactly what these whistleblowers fought to get out there? They are dragged down by your ranting and raving.

Maybe it was murder, maybe it was just two tragic deaths. Time will tell. But let’s focus on the actual accusations rather than make up some because we want a really juicy true crime podcast?

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parpol@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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- NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  The chance of killing youself after saying you’re not killing yourself negates any raised suicide rate of whistleblowers,
  
  Ah, thank you for explaining that.
  
  A quick google that has totally gotten me on a list says that it is estimated that about 5-10% of people who have attempted suicide will die by suicide within a year. Many of those people were talked down and said they weren’t going to… until they did.
  
  and when the chance of foulplay is vastly higher than it not being foulplay,
  
  Citation requested
  
  Having two whistleblowers from the same case suddenly die is extremely unlikely.
  
  Oh, is that the entirety of it? Okay. Planes tend to not have doors fall off. So if there are multiple doors falling off of planes it can’t possibly be a systemic issue. It is actually an evil conspiracy theory out to attack Boeing. Because anything else by my poorly defined metrics is extremely unlikely
  
  I didn’t make up any accusations. I stated how it is vastly more likely they were murdered than that they weren’t if I removed any circumstantial information. Adding circumstantial information very likely sways it even further into murder territory, and not the opposite as you claim.
  
  So…
  
  I am not accusing parpol of being a pedophile or anything. I am just saying that if I specifically pick and choose what facts and statistics I want to talk about then it totally is guaranteed.
  
  Hey, that is fun.
  
  This is such a ridiculous argument when your argument essentially is shilling for a company and trying to downplay how suspicious this whole thing is. By easily refutable you must mean “maybe a meteor killed both” levels of stars aligning.
  
  No. I am not trying to downplay things. I am doing the opposite. I want people to focus on the actual safety issues and design issues. Not to fantasize over what T Swizzy Wizzle will say on the podcast about this in a few months.
  
  Also, real talk? Just because someone doesn’t support you in every single way does not mean they are “shilling for a company”
  
  Assassinations are not a rare occurrence, but you’re making it sound like fairy tale material.
  
  … Yes. Yes assassinations are actually a very rare occurrence. Quick google says the murder rate in the US in 2022 was 5-6 murders per 100,000 people. If we assume all of those are assassinations (and not just kids dying in “gang violence” in a preschool). Same google says 14.5 suicides per 100,000 people.
  
  Hmmm. So a bit under 3x. And, switching to chatgpt because I can’t be bothered to math across the different demographics, we get 100-150 deaths per 100,000 men aged 18 to 50 from medical complications.
  
  Gasp!
  
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