Comment on The Garden of Eden was based on The Galápagos Islands.

PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• ivanafterall@kbin.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is a/the part of the Bible (Genesis 2) people reference to support that belief:

  10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.

  11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;

  12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.

  13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.

  14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel*: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.

  15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

  *Ostensibly Tigris

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  • sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, its 4 rivers, and to the best of my knowledge, biblical scholars have basically given up on trying to associate 4 rivers and the place names given with any actual real location.

    Either its mythical, or some of the place names just do not linguistically connect with any of the historical record of actual locations.

    Same with the 4 rivers. No conclusive evidence of dried up ancient river beds that actually fits.

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  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    One of the most heavily edited books based on old Sumerian fables just happens to base itself around what was ancient Sumer.

    Wow.

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• Uruanna@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There’s a field that was called Gu-edin in the mid third millennium BCE that was the subject of a border war that lasted a couple centuries, between the cities of Lagash and Umma (which is right where you said), because the founder of Lagash bought an unassuming piece of land from Umma and a bunch of surrounding terrains, and then did mad irrigation work and it became crazy fertile. According to Lagash’s records, Umma got mad that it was swindled out of such great land and kept attacking Lagash over it, and kept getting its ass kicked and its kings killed. People from Umma were “allowed” to till the field for Lagash for a time, but most of the grain would still go to Lagash, causing more revolts from Umma (and more punishment).

  It’s fairly agreed that this place probably gave some degree of inspiration for “Eden”, along with some rare green gardens in the region created with irrigation work. The apple bit, the woman rib bit, and the knowledge bit came from other Sumerian myths.

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  • macrocephalic@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There’s no mention of apples in the biblical record, just “fruit”

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    • Uruanna@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Right, the Inanna myth where she learns about sex also talks about eating the herbs and trees on a mountain / highland, I’m not sure when Eden was associated with an apple.

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• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I just think it’d be funny to imagine that the legendary first home of humanity was somewhere in southern Iraq or Kuwait

  No one tell this guy about 6th grade geography.

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  • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Mesopotamia is merely the first place civilization developed, not the place humanity originated from

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