Comment on Google Search is getting even worse for independent sites

asbestos@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Kagi is a paid search engine. It allows you to uprank or downrank specific webpages. In that sense it’s very powerful.

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  • asbestos@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve heard of it but I don’t like the idea of having search queries associate with my credit card, even though they say they don’t do that.

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    • SorteKanin@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But if you don’t pay directly for a good search engine, aren’t they forced to use ads to fund it? And then you end up with Google. Or is there a third option?

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      • iarigby@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        they can give an option to use anonymous forms of payment. Credit card only is aggressively anti privacy

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      • asbestos@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Didn’t think this through, did I… But DDG works for now

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      • Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I paid for discord nitro, didn’t stop them from adding ads.

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    • Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Use a searxng instance instead.

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  • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah but aren’t they getting enshitified? There was a comment a long ago saying Kagi was looking for more ways to monetize or something

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    • Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Everything trends that way. Maybe if it was held by a municipality things could be stable for longer

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• billiam0202@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is exactly why people started appending “site:www.reddit.com” to their searches. It was much easier (but not guaranteed) to find organic discussion and reviews of products.

  Of course, nothing gold can stay, and this tarnish appeared by way of pigfucker Spez making Reddit worse by allowing corporations to flood the site with bots in the name of boosting MAUs for the IPO. That said, I can appreciate the position Google is in- how do you get to be a search engine of such size that your users can trust your results you deliver to them, filter out SEO spam, and have the whole system automated due to costs?

  Or rather, I would appreciate that position, if Google were more interested in quality search results than in spam advertising.

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  • Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I would guess you could allow people to create custom search blacklists. People could upload theirs and people would vote them up or down.

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• br3d@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Have a look at marginalia.nu - it’s like a return to the old days

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• Paradox@lemdro.id ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So you want Kagi

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• pearable@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Looks like you can do it manually. Build your own Google flavor …stackexchange.com/…/how-to-filter-out-a-long-lis…

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• umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  im not aware of what you want, but ceo bullshit is usually made to trick google search. any other engine will be better, even bing is unironically superior to google rn.

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