Comment on The Palestine experience

• mean_bean279@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I hope you realize I cannot change American opinions and popularity of supporting Israel and their war. I have no power over that. None.

  If Biden loses the election I hope you’re ready to see what America can really do to help speed up the violence. It’s bad enough we’re providing material support, but Trump will stop the investigations we have into Israeli command and groups within the military that we have been sanctioning.

  It’s important you again read the statistics. In swing states people are HIGHLY likely to support Israel. There is no way that this near unwavering support isn’t calculated into the re-election campaign. Just because some people voted uncommitted doesn’t suddenly mean jack shit. You’re letting your feelings dictate reality.

  While Biden won the state with more than 618,000 votes, more than 100,000 Michigan Democratic primary voters cast ballots for “uncommitted” in the race, enough to pick up the pair of delegates. The vote totals raise concerns for Democrats in a state Biden won by only 154,000 votes in 2020. Biden was beaten by the “uncommitted” vote in both Dearborn and Hamtramck, where Arab Americans make up close to half the population.

  So he won the state by 154,000 votes last time. If those people vote uncommitted in the 24 election (and I’m betting 70% will vote Biden anyways) he is still up 54,000 votes. Of which those could be heavily rural voters who are likely to support Israel. This is also not the actual election, in which people are likely to vote for the lesser of two evils than the moral vote they made in a non-critical race.

  The reality of our current situation in the US means we’re needing to go slightly left of ultra right, with the hope of eventually, in a few elections, being back on the hardcore progressive train (come back Teddy Roosevelt). We have a lot of olds that are still voting heavier than younger people.

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• ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Let’s say he loses 10% of his supporters from supporting Israel, but 20% not supporting them.

  Either way he loses the general election. But it doesn’t mean he’s not doing the most popular thing. Both options suck for him, politically.

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  • natural_motions@lemmynsfw.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m using an example to illustrate that losing the election wouldn’t necessarily mean he did the most unpopular thinh.

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