Comment on Stop Using Your Face or Thumb to Unlock Your Phone

sramder@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The headline is click-bait. I honestly don’t know why people still read this crap.

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  • indog@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So he was “only” coerced, ie likely verbally abused and lied to (which cops are allowed to do) about the consequences of refusing to unlock, instead of being physically forced. Such freedom.

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    • RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What’s that got to do with using a thumb to unlock the phone?

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      • indog@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “The general consensus has been that there is more Fifth Amendment protection for passwords than there is for biometrics,” Andrew Crocker, the Surveillance Litigation Director at the EFF, told Gizmodo in a phone interview. “The 5th Amendment is centered on whether you have to use the contents of your mind when you’re being asked to do something by the police and turning over your password telling them your password is pretty obviously revealing what’s in your mind.”

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• thorbot@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s Gizmodo. I’d all manipulative bullshit.

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  • Emmie@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Lemmy quality descended quite quickly. What’s the more intelligent tech community alternative?

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    • Lesrid@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Probably because America bad, eat the rich.

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    • Masterblaster420@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      and this is why lemmy is a limp-wristed do-nothing. too many people here want to stick their head in the sand. but by all means, pls share some more star trek memes.

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      • Emmie@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I mean I have curated my list only to non world news and non memes sites and I was left with literally nothing except this community

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    • refalo@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What’s the more intelligent tech community alternative besides hacker news?

      lobste.rs

      But it’s invite-only.

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    • sramder@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Take a deep breath and tell us how you really feel ;-)

      I got here a bit late and it seemed like there was some decent discussion going on. Practical advice on how to lock various phones.

      Some high quality pasta about how to survive the coming civil war ;-) Honestly good advice for anyone considering civil unrest there.

      It’s small, but what’s really missing here? Someone dragging up the constitution? Being forced to incriminate yourself is wrong and any evidence gleaned should be inadmissible. Cops shouldn’t manipulate people into giving up their rights… but that’s the country we live in.

      Reddit was a wash in low effort feel good upvote nonsense too. It just got buried faster.

      To each his own but until I have time to post a bunch of high quality content, I’m not going to complain so bitterly.

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      • Emmie@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I am just annoyed that those sites became so mainstream that’s all. It always gets shitty then but if it is really good it is unavoidable.

        I guess the key is to make it bad enough so normal users won’t touch it but good enough so that some of us will enjoy it

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  • sramder@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ya know… I hadn’t see anything by them in so long I forgot.

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    • thorbot@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s just as shitty as ever

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• indog@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  However, the panel said the evidence from his phone was lawfully acquired “because it required no cognitive exertion, placing it in the same category as a blood draw or a fingerprint taken at booking…"

  If the precedent is that unlocking the phone is the same category as fingerprint taking, well, what happens if you refuse to be “coerced” into having your prints taken? Even if the legal precedent isn’t fully understood, but it looks like the reasoning here isn’t based on whether there was physical force applied, but whether the search required the contents of the person’s mind.

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I do t know about fingerprints but I thought a blood draw required cooperation or court order

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    • Railing5132@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In many (if not most) US jurisdictions, operating a vehicle under a driver’s license specifically implies consent to a blood draw when under suspicion of impaired driving.

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