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Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

The world building in Morrowind is what makes it my favorite TES game, it’s so distinct to any other fantasy game. One of my favorite aspects is how Vvanderfell has its own versions of the mainland guilds AND the mainland guilds themselves competing with their Dunmer counterparts, there’s an Imperial cult presence but the Temple also exists… It’s a very insular world with a very distinct culture and everyone just fucking hates you for no reason. It’s great.

Even the main quest is kind of bonkers when you think about it, the end goal is basically overthrowing the government and installing a Dunmer ethno state… And the Emperor is fine with it lol.

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Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I mean… You just have to do all that in order to kill the very real threat of Dagoth Ur which is what the emperor wants because he has seen the future that happens if the prophecy doesn’t come true. If you could have just walked into the volcano and bitch slapped him just like that, he probably would have just done so.

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andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

the end goal is basically overthrowing the government and installing a Dunmer ethno state… And the Emperor is fine with it lol.

Red Year is coming in 3… 2… 1…

I’d disagree with you saying you are building the ethnostate since your end goal is to kill the one who tried to do that, and also to use Akhulakhan (big godly mecha) to undo the Empire, like it’s some Metal Gear Solid game lol. You kill the most dissenting party here, and whatever your choices were before, you still build this province as a more tolerant place than Dagoth Ur envisioned. Even Redoran’s ultraconservative pov is vanilla compared to what could’ve happened if he won. So it’s a win for Empire even if they didn’t know that wouldn’t last.

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- Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m referencing the Nerevarine prophecy which states that the reincarnated Nerevar would restore the worship of the original gods and drive out the outlanders from Morrowind, it’s basically an ethnostate by that point. What I find most bizarre is the fact that the player is basically responsible for destroying Vvanderfell after killing Vivec and causing the Red Year, I don’t remember if it’s ever implied in the game that that’s going to happen, but in retrospect you’re not really the hero of the story, you basically killed everyone post-credits lol.
  
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  - zygo_histo_morpheus@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I don’t think that the driving the empire from Morrowind ever happens in game, but maybe that’s a concequence of the Red Year which in turn is a concequence of the Tribunal losing their power because of the ending of the main quest.
    
    The Tribunal where losing their power anyway, but I suppose that Dagoth Ur could have kept Bar Dau in its place if he’d won, but then everyone would have been transformed into a corpus zombie instead.
    
    The Red Year isn’t part of Morrowind lore, but “what is going to happen with Bar Dau now?” is kind of an open question at the end of the game so it is an event that absolutely builds on things set up in Morrowind
    
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  - andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    AlMSIVI are losing their powers at this point, so unlike Daggerfall with it’s 6 endings, whatever you do, the star that Molag Bal launched and Vivek slowed down would eventually crush into the capital even if you leave Vivek alive. The one thing they could do is releasing slaves and establishing good relations with argonians, who are happy to pillage the province in the distress, but they didn’t. So they ate the cake they baked.
    
    I’m pissed that most of that was designed when they did the OG game, but we come to know that through books in Oblivion and poorly-written published fanfics.
    
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