I have a feeling that user blocks people that are critical of Tesla. They are probably oblivious to several comments in this thread. It’s really no wonder why they have no clue about how bad Tesla really is.
Comment on Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving linked to hundreds of crashes, dozens of deaths
Turun@feddit.de 5 months agoIt also fails to mention how the accident rate compares to human drivers.
That may be because Tesla refuses to publish proper data on this, lol.
Yeah, they claim it’s ten times better than a human driver, but none of their analysis methods or data points are available to independent researchers. It’s just marketing.
machinin@lemmy.world 5 months ago
machinin@lemmy.world 5 months ago
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Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I’m not claiming it is 10x safer than a human - I’m saying that even if it was there would still be daily deaths despite that.
Tesla has published the data - people just refuse to believe it because it doesn’t show what they think it should. There’s nothing more Tesla can do about it at this point. It’s up to independent researches from now.
Turun@feddit.de 5 months ago
I would love to see this data, can you link it? I am aware their marketing pushes the “10x better” number. But I have yet to see the actual data to back this claim.
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Either a paper by unaffiliated researchers or the raw data is fine.
Like I said; the only data available is from Tesla itself which any reasonable person should take with a grain of salt. If you want to see it you can just google it. There’s plenty of YouTubers independently testing it aswell but these are all obviously biased fanboys that can’t be trusted either.
ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Tesla sues people that criticise them in the media. You really can’t trust most reviews. The reviews are also looking for money from companies like Tesla so their not impartial.
machinin@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Comment:
none of their analysis methods or data points are available to independent researchers.
Your response:
It’s up to independent researches from now.
I think you missed an important point there. Can you show the detailed methods and data points that Tesla used for their marketing materials?
dgmib@lemmy.world 5 months ago
This is the part that bothers me.
l’d defend Tesla when FSD gets into accidents, even fatal ones, IF they showed that FSD caused fewer accidents than the average human driver.
They claim that’s true, but if it is why not release data that proves it?
machinin@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It isn’t the average driver. Most cars are equipped with driver assist features, we have to say that is should be better than people using current driver assist features from other companies. If Tesla is behind everyone else, but better than a 20 year-old car, it’s still problematic.