Comment on Print in place ratchet design
technomad@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
On the design of the teeth on the cog, would an alternatively shaped triangle be of any benefit? If the action/rotation only goes one way, then having one side sloped and the other side flat seems like it would work better for the stopping mechanism.
Hope I was able to explain that properly, please let me know if you understand what i mean.
EmilieEvans@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
The teeth is indeed a critical aspect. It has to be symmetrical as this assembly is mirrored to block the rotation in the other direction.
An alternative to this would be printing the spring with the contact surface separately and inserting it into this print (pause at layer height, insert part, continue print) allowing other geometries (that would overlap with the teeth if printed in place) and pretension. The downside is it’s a manual task and one more separate part to keep track of.
This is small and the tolerances of the center hub cause the teeths/“gear” to move approx. 0.3-0.5mm of centre. This means what you see in the CAD/slicer isn’t how it will look once printed. I had to narrow the gap down as much as I could to get the largest contact area. If you make it a sled on one side there is less material/surface area.
A further consequence is that the tip of it doesn’t touch anything as such you could remove the very tip to adjust the sound signature. The feeling is slightly changed but primarily this replaced the high-pitched plastic sound with a deep tone.
The nice aspect is that in the blocking position, it is a solid connection meaning it can take as much load as the teeth (tip) can support (hence the trying to maximize the contact area there). The spring element is only there to return this blocking “bolt” into position after a teeth passes through.
technomad@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
I wish I could see a visual of how it operates, because I’m sure it’s something simple about it that I’m not seeing right away.
The thing that I’m having trouble comprehending is how the symmetrical teeth design would be capable of engaging the spring/blocker (pawl?). I mean that the pawl doesn’t seem like it will be able to work as a stop; it seems like it would just allow the gears to bypass it regardless of rotation direction. Is this incorrect? I know you said there is a mirrored assembly to block the rotation in the other direction, but that still doesn’t help me understand the pawl/teeth engagement quandary that my mind has created.
The sound signature you mentioned is a nice detail that I’m glad you included. I definitely wouldn’t have thought of that right away if I was designing something similar.
EmilieEvans@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
here you go: www.thingiverse.com/thing:6595547 Likely a old version with 0.4mm clearance that does work. If not message me and I could send you a later revision with 0.23mm that definitly works.
How does it work?
one direction: pretty obvious the spring bends out, the teeth pass through the other direction: the spring gets slightly pulled/stretched (the leading tip of the teeth pushes it) which causes the tip to be pushed against the block (left in the picture) and blocking the mechanism.
In other words, this mechanism works by having a physical path for the compression of the spring but in the opposite direction when would need to stretch to move pass the teeth it is stopped by a wall/block.