Comment on Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to Biden, who has already committed to signing it

• eldavi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  One silver line here is “the youths” will learn, in an unusually clear way, that the government effects their lives and can screw up their lives.

  this happened to be back in the 90’s & 00’s when biden et al. spearheaded non-dischargeable student loan debt; anti-gay marriage; and a ban on gays in the military and now i’m permanently anti democrat party.

  however i don’t think think that this will have the same impact depth because being denied videos does not have the same impact on your life as your government deporting the person you love because you can’t sponsor them for legal residency and driven towards taking on huge student loan debt because the military won’t let you join to obtain the college tuition part of GI bill.

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  • Buttons@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I can understand your frustration. I currently feel that way towards a certain political party, but I have to keep an open mind because things change.

    For example, I don’t doubt what you said Democrats was true in past decades, but today I believe the Democrats are more friendly towards LGBT rights than Republicans are. It appears things have changed on those specific issues.

    Maybe we wont agree, but let’s at lets at least find clarity: Do you believe Republicans or Democrats are currently more friendly towards LGBT people?

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    • eldavi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      like abortion, the democrats did nothing when they had the chance and; in my case; they actively made it worse.

      it was hollywood that changed people’s minds on lgbt issues and democrats are simply the political beneficiaries.

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      • Buttons@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Also, to get that clarity I was seeking. Do you:

        1. Recommend people vote for Democrats (sounds like no).
        2. Recommend people vote for Republicans.
        3. Recommend people vote for third-parties or not vote at all.

        If you believe that Republicans are better for LGBT issues, then I want to hear you say it: “I think Republicans are better on LGBT issues”. I have my own opinion on this which I will keep to myself, I really just want you to be clear about your view and then let everyone judge for themselves what they think is right.

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      • Buttons@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        All fair criticisms of Democrats in my opinion.

        The only thing I have a problem with is your “never vote Democrat” rule. You do you, but I believe voting in a way that will most help LGBT people, and most help women’s reproductive rights, etc–I believe that if you want to cast votes that most support those causes, it will sometimes require voting for a Democrat.

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  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    i’m permanently anti democrat party.

    thats a person issue not a democrat issue.

    to be fair the people who bitch about “both sidesing” generally have a point, centrists fucking suck dude.

    Centrists will pull some shit like “well maybe, we shouldn’t ban gay marriage, but we should still restrict their rights, it’s only fair right?”

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    • eldavi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      martin luther king called them moderates and he agreed with both of us.

      the problem is that moderates today call leftists they don’t like tankies and other leftists agree; effectively proving king’s point to be true.

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      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        istg politics fucks up everything it touches.

        We can’t have anything nice and this is why.

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  • reverendsteveii@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    this happened to be back in the 90’s & 00’s when biden et al. spearheaded non-dischargeable student loan debt; anti-gay marriage; and a ban on gays in the military and now i’m permanently anti the party that rolled back don’t ask don’t tell, embraced marriage and healthcare rights for queer people and have forgiven tons of student loan debt. I’m definitely not a psy-op. Pay no attention to the fact that no one calls them ‘the democrat party’ except people who have 1000+ hours viewing fox news.

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    • eldavi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      sure, now that it’s politically popular; nevermind that they did nothing to make that a reality.

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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  (is our government going to start blocking access to websites too?).

  I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t. The movie industry is already lobbying for it

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• Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You know TikTok is global right?

  But yeah Biden is just over here casually giving Trump better chances.

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  • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If ByteDance doesn’t divest of TikTok 9 months, then it will be blocked from being distributed from App Stores. Nothing will be blocked before the election, so it’s not really something which will affect the typical voter who isn’t following the news, causing them to change their vote.

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    • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s major news. We’re not that dumb.

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