Comment on First known test dogfight between AI and human pilot carried out, US military says

KeenFlame@feddit.nu ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You mean it should be a war crime, right? Or is there some treaty I am unaware of?

  Also, why? I don’t necessarily disagree, I am just curious.

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  • Hacksaw@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not OP, but if you can’t convince a person to kill another person then you shouldn’t be able to kill them anyways.

    There are points in historical conflicts, from revolutions to wars, when the very people you picked to fight for your side think “are we the baddies” and just stop fighting. This generally leads to less deaths and sometimes a more democratic outcome.

    If you can just get a drone to keep killing when any reasonable person would surrender you’re empowering authoritarianism and tyranny.

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    • n3m37h@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Take WWI Christmas when everyone got out of the trenches and played some football (no not American foot touches the ball 3x a game)

      It almost ended the war

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      • KeenFlame@feddit.nu ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes the humanity factor is vital

        Imagine the horrid destructive cold force of automated genocide, it can not be met by anything other than the same or worse and at that point we are truly doomed

        Because there will then be no one that can prevent it anymore

        It must be met with worse opposition than biological warfare did after wwI, hopefully before tragedy

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  • i_love_FFT@lemmy.ml [bot] ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Mines are designated war crimes by the Geneva convention because of the indiscriminate killing. Many years ago, good human right lawyers could have extended that to drones… (Source: i had close friends in international law)

    But i feel like now the tides have changed and tech companies have influenced the general population to think that ai is good enough to prevent “indiscriminate” killing.

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  • KeenFlame@feddit.nu ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes

    Because it is a slippery slope and dangerous to our future existence as a species

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• xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I broadly agree, but that’s not what this is, right?

  This is a demonstration of using AI to execute combat against an explicitly selected target.

  So it still needs the human to pull the trigger, just the trigger does some sick plane stunts rather than just firing a bullet in a straight line.

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  • KeenFlame@feddit.nu ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I would imagine it was more than evasive since they called it a dogfight, but ye

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