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Comment on The Way Forward, an update from the team behind Cities: Skylines

ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

That doesn’t make it sheer greed; it’s what’s feasible to develop. A systems driven game like a city builder or a 4X game mean that you can’t just drag and drop old content in the new systems and expect it to work and look cohesive. Every fighting game launches with fewer characters than the previous version, and it’s not because it’s some conspiracy to delay dropping the SFV characters in SF6; it’s because swapping out the V system for the Drive system is a massive change, and the old characters take a lot of work to port over. Even the art style in Civ 6 is very different from Civ V. When you try to just copy and paste content between two different styles of art direction, you end up with nightmare fuel Chun-Li in Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite.

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Ashtear@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The base game having less content than its predecessor isn’t the greedy part. It’s the fact that taking advantage of that market inelasticity wasn’t enough for Paradox and judging it acceptable to release a product in this state on top of that.

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- ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It’s the kind of decision you make when you run out of cash to keep funding development.
  
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  - Ashtear@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Paradox and Colossal Order have said they literally ran out of cash?
    
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    ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    No, but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…
    
    Everyone ran out of cash in this industry. Investment dried up, and they knew what state their game was shipping in. That doesn’t mean you’re wrong to be upset as a consumer either.
    
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TwanHE@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Save for Smash Ultimate

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- ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Sure, but that was iterative, like Super Street Fighter II Turbo, as opposed to making Street Fighter III. Wherever they go with Smash from here, it will involve a systems rework and fewer characters.
  
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  - TwanHE@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Wouldn’t say it’s that iterative since most characters play differently from their past versions.
    
    But honestly, I wouldn’t mind less characters in the next game, melee is old as fuck and the meta is still changing with the few characters it has.
    
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    ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The ways that they play differently are a few numbers tweaks and occasionally a new animation. It’s not the difference between Melee and Brawl or 64 and Melee.
    
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