Comment on China abducted its own citizens on EU territory, report finds
420blazeit69@hexbear.net 5 months agoThis is not a good comparison and isn’t necessary to show this report is bullshit. It isn’t even internally coherent:
“Indeed, the official methodology involves kidnapping,” Harth said. “Citizens are persuaded to return…”
They’re talking about China telling its citizens to return, which is nothing like kidnapping, but they’re calling it that anyway to gin up outrage. Between that and the telltale “Chinese Communist Party” mislabeling, they’re obviously not interested in doing any sort of objective analysis.
Yes, the CCP is notorious for being super friendly when persuading people. They would never ever threaten a person’s entire family to get people to step in line.
Grabbing a person off the streets and throwing them into a van isn’t the only method of kidnapping.
Pg. 18 of the full report, linked in the post:
Ye is the former mayor of Chuanliao Town Government in Qingtian County, Zhejiang. Accused of bribery, he fled to Milan, Italy, in July 2001.
In December 2014, the Zhejiang Public Security Department and the Protectorate sent a joint working group to Italy and Spain to carry out persuade to return operations of fugitives from the Lishui and Wenzhou areas.
After being persuaded face-to-face by the working group, Ye flew back to China with the working group to surrender himself on December 23, 2014.
Not only is there no evidence of what you’re suggesting, but this anti-China group’s own report paints a pretty mundane picture.
Their strategy is to create an unfalsifiable position:
See this is the kind of sarcasm that only works if you’re in a space that has also uncritically accepted the output of the world’s biggest system of disinformation.
Also it’s CPC, not CCP. Dead giveaway as to where you get your scholarly reading.
booty@hexbear.net 5 months ago
I did not even click the link because it’s obvious on its face that it’s bullshit anti-china propaganda in like 7 different ways. My comment is essentially a steel-man argument: Even if I assume that the liberal bullshit propaganda is 100% true, the US is still far worse in every way.
420blazeit69@hexbear.net 5 months ago
Ah, makes sense. I’d look more at the U.S. drone assassination program and its (actual) kidnapping and torture operations. That’s the best comparison to what this report alleges.
booty@hexbear.net 5 months ago
Well, I don’t appreciate the implication that the time I was in the wrong place at the wrong time so I got forced into the back of a stranger’s car at gunpoint and driven 30 minutes to the stranger’s HQ where I was then locked in a room and interrogated doesn’t count as “abduction” or “kidnapping”
420blazeit69@hexbear.net 5 months ago
I mean, that wasn’t an abuction or kidnapping. There are countless actions that are legal when the government does them but criminal if done by a private citizen.
This isn’t a technical point, either. Mischaracterizing lawful government conduct as criminal is exactly what this report is attempting to do, and we shouldn’t do it ourselves.