Comment on ‘There wasn’t enough about the horror’: Hiroshima survivors react to Oppenheimer

DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Son_of_dad@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Lol everytime I go on Lemmy and suggest that your nation returns my nation’s looted treasures, you guys say “see no cause they’re safer with me, your country is a shit hole” and you still to this day ignore all the atrocities you guys committed against us. Don’t try to tell me the people you nuked weren’t victims, just to avoid the reality that you guys did something so evil, and made it out to be a hero move

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  • brick@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Of course they were victims, but they were victims of their imperialist government at least as much as they were victims of the US if not more so. The Japanese military led an aggressive, savage campaign. They raped and brutalized with impunity. They tortured POWs with impunity. They carried out disgusting medical experiments and vivisections with zero humanity. Perhaps you are familiar with the rape of Nanking? Unit 731?

    They sneak-attacked the US and pulled them into the war, and even after they were completely defeated they would. not. stop.

    It’s a very complicated issue. Debate will go on forever about whether or not the US nuking Japan was the “right” choice. It will never end because it is based on hypotheticals about what might have happened in an alternate timeline, and what the true motivations behind it might have been.

    One thing is very clear though: Japan’s government and their military were beat and they should have surrendered but they did not. Their military continued to operate their systematic campaign of torture and rape.

    The US had atomic bombs and responded by using them. Was it the right thing to do? Who knows. Japan’s government fucked around, repeatedly, and their citizens found out.

    Putting it all on the US is a level of cope beyond anything science could have imagined.

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  • Dkarma@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So you’d rather have twice as many die during the invasion that would have been needed for Japan to surrender without the bomb?

    Nukes are the only reason Japan wasn’t wiped out entirely via invasion.

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    • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s nice when you develop entire what if scenarios after the fact, to justify your war crimes

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      • Nubbly_The_Moist@lemmynsfw.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That isn’t a “What If”, that was literally our plan if the bomb was not developed in time.

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  • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s interesting, do you ever get that about the treasure stolen and hoarded by the Japanese occupiers and soldiers from the Chinese and Korean people?

    I recall that being a huge issue back on the early 2000’s without being addressed.

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    • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah it’s a big issue when anyone steals artifacts. But I don’t want to hear from Americans about it. That’s like a serial killer complaining about another guy committing assault.

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      • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Man, that’s fucking legit, I feel you there

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