The issue is that Meta’s intention is to extinguish the fediverse, not to add to it. I can’t believe people are still falling for this tactic.
Comment on Meta just showed off Threads’ fediverse integration for the very first time
DingoBilly@lemmy.world 1 month agoYeah I don’t understand the issue.
People want the fediverse to grow, so FB entering it is a good thing no? Otherwise realistically the fediverse will likely stagnate and always just take up a tiny bit of space.
The more people involved the better. Sometimes I feel this group just wants to shoot themselves in the foot.
rambaroo@lemmynsfw.com 1 month ago
DingoBilly@lemmy.world 1 month ago
But honestly, the fediverse is tiny and I find it’s not a suitable replacement for anything at the moment. It does need to have more people joining for it to be a complete replacement.
As to whether Meta will extinguish it or not I don’t know, but at least in the short term it could help. I don’t think it’s reasonable to pre-emptively shoot your foot off because you might get gangrene - I’d rather wait to see it and then decide.
rambaroo@lemmynsfw.com 1 month ago
The fediverse just needs time to grow. It’s still a very new thing. Growth will take a long time, but it needs to be an alternative to corporate social media, not integrated with malicious actors.
It will be more difficult and damaging to defederate later when Meta starts throwing its weight around, because people will become accustomed to a much larger amount of content. It’s best to never federate with them, even if that means costing growth opportunities in the short term.
DingoBilly@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s a fair call.
It does run the risk that the fediverse will always be irrelevant and will never see the growth needed to actually be useful for most people.
I’d prefer the risk myself but get that others aren’t.
Zink@pawb.social 1 month ago
I DON’T want the fediverse to grow if that growth is full of extremists, hate groups, porn bots, etc.
DingoBilly@lemmy.world 1 month ago
But the fediverse already has that lol. I’ve had arguments here with extremists many times.
You won’t just magically cure it by stopping FB from federating.
Zink@pawb.social 1 month ago
But we’re talking our current problem but instead expanded into a community 80 times the size of the fediverse. That’s a little more hate than we’ve got now, no?
DingoBilly@lemmy.world 1 month ago
So what do you want exactly? Do you want the fediverse to remain small and irrelevant forever? Or do you want it to grow and become the dominant space with more bad actors but more useful actors as well?
Because you can’t have both, and you will always have more extremists and shitty views with larger groups. I for one think the fediverse is a better implementation of the social tech for pack of a better word, and would prefer its implementation over the closed wall implementation of non fediverse applications.
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Meh. Tankies>fascists
DingoBilly@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You’ll have both though in the fediverse… So it’s pretty irrelevant. Just because you don’t see them doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Lemmy already is full of extremists and hate groups. Perhaps you mean you don’t want hate groups you don’t agree with?
Zink@pawb.social 1 month ago
Even if this is somehow true (no clue who you federated with, man), we’re talking a community abt 80 times the size of the fediverse whose owner does not care and will not do anything other than dump its worst upon us.
Even if they aren’t planning EEE, they might just be trying to rid of the fediverse by filling it with junk.
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 month ago
There’s not much one can really do about that. You can block their instance or join one that does it for you but that still doesn’t stop them from joining the fediverse or seeing the content here. Being an open platform means that it’s also open for the actors you don’t like.
With hate groups and extremists I was refering to the anti-right-wing, anti-capitalist, pro-socialism/communism, pro-anarchy, anti-AI, anti-facebook/twitter/google etc. sentiment that’s alive an well all over our frontpages here.