Comment on How to Figure Out What Your Car Knows About You (and Opt Out of Sharing When You Can)

ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They know a lot, potentially, just don’t have a cell connection.

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  • tal@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t know whether the maintenance process involves any download and transfer of data to the manufacturer, though I imagine that it could.

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• DeepChill@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If they have airbags and ABS they know a shitload more than you think.

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  • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t think most older vehicles have any internet connection, regardless of what safety equipment they have. Or am I wrong?

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    • scoobford@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Depends on how old, but OnStar has been around since before 2000.

      Early implementations may have been less creepy, but I’m not sure there’s any way to know.

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      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Depends on the vehicle. Mine is mid-2010s but no internet connection to my knowledge—unless they’ve been paying for it in secret without telling me. Doesn’t seem especially likely.

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  • SupraMario@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They know a lot less than you think they do…and none of it is person data. It’s all drivetrain and running diagnostic stuff. Very few cars in 2013 had apps for the vehicles…and pretty much none had them in 2003.

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    • DeepChill@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well, if you think connected apps are the only way cars invade your privacy…. That’s cute, good for you.

      Road speed, accelerator position, brake pedal position, number of seatbelts buckled or not, GPS position and heading, time since key on and probably at least a dozen other parameters I can’t think of off the top of my head are all being recorded. Those certainly are personal data that can and will be used against you in the event of a crash.

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      • KnightontheSun@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes. Telemetry boxes. Most cars have had them for almost twenty years. The cell connection is more modern.

        Telemetric insurance is a thing now.

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