Land in the middle of nowhere really doesnt cost anything. But Yeah, you couldnt really build a house with all the modern nice things we have learned to expect. More of a small cabin
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LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 8 months agoAll of a sudden, you have a bunch of new options. You can move to a rural town. You can move to places with lower average incomes. Hell, you can just buy a lot of land in the middle of nowhere and build a house.
sounds nice but I seriously doubt UBI would be more than $1,000 per month. Enough for groceries and a car payment. NOT enough money to move out of town and buy land and build a house.
ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Illuminostro@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You were either born rich, have no idea what you’re talking about, or a child. Land is expensive everywhere, and it’s priced relative to the cost of living in the area. Take that Shapiro trust fund baby “Well, just move somewhere else” bullshit somewhere else.
ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
You don’t know rural places
Illuminostro@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Again, you don’t know what you’re talking about. I grew up in, and still live in, a rural place. Stop, before you make yourself look more foolish.
BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Long term, why would it be limited to $1000?
This is honestly an issue about the long term prospects of our species. More and more production is becoming automated, resources owned, and complex work likely going to AIs. This causes a fundamental breakdown of our current system - people working is largely “redundant” in a world of automation; people are less and less of a “resource” and capitalism begins to make less and less sense.
We’re playing with the idea of UBI now, but we’re going to need solutions to this problem. Whoever owns the robots, AIs, land/resources owns everything. Either we let this be concentrated in the hands of an arisocratic class of billionaires, or we rebuild the system and accept capitalism is over. If people can’t “sell” their time through work, then how are people going to live.
I know it all sounds very science-fiction but this is the reality our world is sleep walking into. Instead of coming up with plans to dace this, our politicians are unsurprisingly pissing about focusing on nonsense and tinkering at the fringes of the problem at best.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Do you honestly think the government is going to pay every citizen a full living wage to sit around and do nothing for the rest of their lives? Keep dreaming.
Kinglink@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“No it’ll be so people can go be artists, and be writers and be…”
There are legit people who believe that.
And it’s not like this money appears magically the government will need to find ways to pay for this, we still haven’t solved that problem but even if we did, we’ll see that 1000 doesn’t change everyone’s situation. Stupid people will still be poor because they spend too much money. The rich will save their money, but the middle class and lower middle won’t change much because ultimately, 1000 dollars will eventually be factored into the new price of everything.
Illuminostro@lemmy.world 8 months ago
There absolutely is a solution to the problem: make the filthy rich pay for the privilege of being allowed to be filthy rich. Tax the absolute shit out of them on everything over $10 million, and close the stock/loan loophole. Pay the fucking piper.