Tasers are not as effective as a gun. If you are fighting for your life you take no chances.
Comment on California sheriff releases bodycam video of killing of boy, 15, holding gardening tool
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I think shooting someone trying to attack you with a hoe generally counts as self-defense, but I don’t understand why
“The use of a Taser in this situation with the amount of time or the use of pepper-spray would not have been something we would have been able to react to quick enough. Ultimately we have to stop this problem … law enforcement officers are not required to be hit over the head with something. What happens when they get incapacitated? … The deputies followed through with what their training protocols are.”
This seems like exactly the situation tasers are meant for.
Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
And if this were a story about some random person defending themselves I might agree, but it’s not. It’s about a police officer who supposedly has the physical fitness and training to take the extra risk of using less than lethal options.
MxM111@kbin.social 6 months ago
They say that tasers are not reliable. Plus police also have guns, so if a person with a hoe knocks you out (because taser failed), it can get possession of the gun and can start killing others.
FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 6 months ago
They say that tasers are not reliable.
That says they shouldn't have tasers.
it can
"It"?
get possession of the gun and can start killing others.
That says they shouldn't have guns.
ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Pull out both and position taser like flashlight?
Pull taser out immediately to reduce time drawing it if their is slight indication of violence.
I’m not sure someone running at you with a gardening tool counts as fighting for your life.
Police around the world manage not to shoot people in these situations.
Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
It was basically a knife of a pole. It’s a long reach weapon and most gun instructors will tell you even at 21 feet a hand to hand weapon may have the advantage over a gun. Best not to have potential weapons at the ready when confronting police. This is all armchair quarterbacking at this point anyway. It was a heat of the moment reaction.
520@kbin.social 6 months ago
A taser would have been enough. That 15 year old kid wouldn't be able to shrug off a taser.
Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Tasers can fail to go off, miss, not attach, or even be dodged besides some people not being affected. If somebody has what is effevely a knife on a pole and they’re that close it’s one and done. The most effective force to use is a gun.
Xanis@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The question I’m asking is:
Why is there no time for a taser or pepper spray? Those should release just as quickly and easily as a firearm. Moreover, I’m rather confident I could take someone coming at me with a gardening tool, and I’m no police officer. Sure, don’t risk a physical altercation, though at what point did that situation warrant the use of a firearm?
And a taser holds little real risk for the officer firing it. Hell, even a gun can have issues.
Crikeste@lemm.ee 6 months ago
But in your first sentence you clarified this is okay. No change will happen until you, and every other American, change that thinking.
You don’t understand why a cop killed a kid in a country that will do backflips in order to find justification for said violence?
ReallyKinda@kbin.social 6 months ago
That statement also admits that this is in line with protocol, Idk who in their right mind would call a protocol acceptable where 3 guys show up to a distress call with guns and can’t manage to deescalate one kid with a hoe without loss of life.