They are working on it (or it is part of the DMA) to enable users to uninstall preloaded apps.
small44@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This need to be applied to smartphones
The_Worst@feddit.nl 6 months ago
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Linux phone when?
Bronco1676@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Already exists but not in a good shape for “normie” use
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
normie Linux phone when?
shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 6 months ago
On the year of linux
smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Imagine phones coming with a clean Android with the ability to install Google Play Services like a normal app 😌.
And documention to port other operating systems or new Android versions.
Dehydrated@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You just described GrapheneOS, by far the best mobile operating system IMO
PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Shame it, by sensible design, only works on Pixels.
Dehydrated@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Because Pixels are the only Android phones with reasonable hardware design (in regards to security)
Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The closest thing is Fairphone. Also, unfortunately, only available in Europe.
photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
My Fairphone had a far from clean android install.
Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Really? The Fairphone has bloatware on it? Can it at least be removed easily?
Why can’t we just have nice things like basic phones and printers without a bunch of fucking trickery?
muix@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
Same, but after unlocking the bootloader, it had a very clean LineageOS install.
oce@jlai.lu 6 months ago
It’s actually sold in the USA degoogled through Murena murena.com/america/shop/…/murena-fairphone-4/
Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Fairphone has made it pretty clear that they have no plans of selling future versions in the U.S. though. They allowed Murena to sell their older Fairphone 4, but the 5 and later versions seem likely to be EU only.
hagelslager@feddit.nl 6 months ago
Fairphone comes with standard Android? Unlocking the Fairphone to get a de-googled Android is easy for someone somewhat technically inclined.
Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 months ago
My understanding was that the entire point of Fairphone was not to be under the thumb of a corporation and that would allow us to use our device how we want for as long as we want. If it is designed to be married to a corporation, that makes me distrust Fairphone as well.
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Now imagine your boomer aunt trying to sideload an app store on her new phone
smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
This could be a common knowledge everyone has. Like inserting a SIM card and entering a PIN, this also had to be learned.
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Maybe your family is smarter than mine, but none of my 60ish aged aunts or uncles have learned to install a sim. They have the store do it, or their kids, or struggle through the instructions the carrier sent then complain about it for 3 weeks and forget it by the next time it comes up.
Sideloading is a form of installing and it applies in this case. Its also a lot to ask of the sort of people who will turn on their new device and say things like “it’s says to enter my email address, what should I put?”
A modern consumer OS should come bundled with everything a typical user needs pre-installed. That includes an app store and a browser. The “knows enough to be dangerous” types should be free to remove it. That seems like a good compromise to me.