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Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

So for me soy was a death sentence. As a child I would get an anaphylactic reaction to soy. So yeah I had to be very careful.

I did eat eggs, lots of eggs. The thing is a large egg has about 70 calories. In my teens and 20s I had a maintenance diet of over 3000 calories a day. I could easily eat a meal of over 1000 calories and be hungry in a few hours. That is 30+ eggs a day.

I assume you mean hemp seeds? Right? It’s great that food sources like that exist. Having said that, I don’t really think they were available during the Reagan administration…

No I don’t think Grain finishing is a good thing. As I said it is a thing that exists because of commercial ag. I personally think. That JBS, national, Tyson, and Cargile are destroying the meat industry for their own gain. No one except their shareholders benefit. That is why I always advocate for people to buy their meat from the rancher. It is much better for the animals, Grass finished tastes better, and it supports independent producers.

If you just plain do the math of the area needed for grazing versus the average consumption of beef per capita you can see that most cattle is definitely not just “grain finished”.

Feel free to show me the math. Look I am not trying to be mean but that statement is just not true. That is not how cow digestion works. Both steers and nursing/pregnant heifers need to be on a grass diet. If you really want I can give you a much better break down of how exactly it works. It may be through silage or haylage, but they are not a grain diet. Grain is what makes beef marbled, that is why cows are just finished on it. Too much fat in the beef reduces its value.

Look I agree that industrial ag practices are not the right way. And as I said last time it is very important to understand a system to be able to create real change.

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Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Yeah, eating soy with a severe soy allergy can lead to anaphylactix shock, but having a soy allergy doesn’t mean you won’t be able to get protein elsewhere, meaning you just have to not eat soy.

You can easily die of lactose intolerance as well. Diarrhea is historically in like the top 3 causes of death.

I assume you mean hemp seeds? Right?

The plant is called cannabis.

“Hemp” is for people who don’t understand that “hemp” is a political term and that “hemp seeds” are in fact cannabis seeds and that even the most psychoactive cannabis has no psychoactive alkaloids in the seeds.

No I don’t think Grain finishing is a good thing

Not what I asked. I asked if you seriously think most cattle is “grain finished” when literally a vast majority of the world’s cattle is fed solely on feed and never even see grass.

“Feel free to show me, I’m unable to back up anything I said and I think it’s up to you to disprove me instead of me being able to support the things I’m saying.”

And you talk about being annoyed by people who don’t know what they’re talking about?

Which country’s data should we use?

…wikipedia.org/…/List_of_countries_by_meat_consum…

ourworldindata.org/grapher/land-use-per-kg-poore

statista.com/…/grazing-land-worldwide-by-region/

There’s the data

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- Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Why the ad hominem attacks?
  
  You said that
  
  soy is not a death sentence Even when it was for me and your reply to that seems angry. Well talked about this. I couldn’t eat soy or dairy. I ate eggs , but they are not calorie dense enough. And yes I ate lots of legumes. My mom fed us lots of lentils when I was a kid. And as I as said I literally couldn’t eat enough calories without meat. As I have gotten older I have been able to eat a little less meat which is nice, but there are many people like me who have shit digestion. We live our lives chronically under weight despite eating 4 or 5 meals a day. I literally didn’t have the option. Meat and animal fat were the only foods that were calorie dense enough to keep me alive. Are you saying I should have died?
  
  The plant is called cannabis Again why the anger? I know what it is call. There is a clear definition between hemp and marijuana. Yes they are both part of the cannabis family but we both know you are not buy marijuana seed at the food co-op as a supplement.
  
  Also you completely failed to respond to them not being available to me as a child.
  
  Not what I asked. I asked if you seriously think most cattle is “grain finished”
  
  That is not what you asked, you asked.
  
  You’re not seriously suggesting that most cattle enjoy such conditions?
  
  Why are you trying to change what you said instead of a good faith effort to reply with counter points. I am always happy to have a good discussion.
  
  I look at your data it says nothing about how cattle many cows are gain finished or not. You completely failed to reply to the fact that cows can’t be on an all grain diet despite your previous statement to that.
  
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  - Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Why the ad hominem attacks?
    
    I don’t think you understanding what that means.
    
    Even when it was for me
    
    You’re alive, dummy. Because you don’t eat soy. If you were allergic to oxygen, that argument might apply.
    
    Again why the anger?
    
    What’s this about anger? You might be projecting. So me noting that hemp is cannabis made you feel stupid, so you feel angry. It’s understandable, dw.
    
    Also you completely failed to respond to them not being available to me as a child.
    
    “My parents didn’t care about my dietary requirements so that means that it literally didn’t exist”
    
    I know what it is call. There is a clear definition between hemp and marijuana. Yes they are both part of the cannabis family but we both know you are not buy marijuana seed at the food co-op as a supplement.
    
    “Marijuana” :DD
    
    “cannabis family”
    
    They’re both the exact same plant; cannabis sativa. “Hemp” just refers to the cannabis that isn’t too strong.
    
    From your comment:
    
    Just so you know cattle are only grain finished, personally I don’t like the practice. More details in my reply to a different comment. lemmy.world/comment/8250179
    
    As if no cattle was fed only on feed. And then you have the audacity to pretend to be angry at people who don’t understand agriculture. “Grain finished” means “mostly grass fed” and that just isn’t fucking true, hahahahaahah
    
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    Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    You’re alive, dummy
    
    ad hominem
    
    1 : appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect an ad hominem argument 2 : marked by or being an attack on an opponent’s character rather than by an answer to the contentions made
    
    www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ad hominem
    
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