Comment on Google gets its way, bakes a user-tracking ad platform directly into Chrome

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• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t think we should equate Firefox’s AI plans with other ones.

  Firefox’s AI will be trained entirely locally with data that you choose to give it, and won’t send any information back to Firefox.

  By the sounds of it it won’t be a chatbot either, but rather an aid for finding more sources, pointing out fake reviews, assisting in translation, etc.

  My two main issues with “AI” are unethically sourced training data, and hoovering up personal information when you use it. Neither are a problem for Mozilla’s “AI” plans.

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• Damage@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Firefox is open source, bullshit can be excised if necessary

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  • calzone_gigante@lemmy.eco.br ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Maintaining a browser is crazy hard. If Firefox goes to shit, it would require some serious foundation to maintain a good fork.

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    • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes, and expensive. This is often overlooked when people just say don’t worry it’s FOSS. The enshitification happens slowly, and by the time there is outrage about how bad it becomes the last non intrusive fork might be several years old and take even more work to modernize. I’m not giving up all hope, but you are correct, it would be a very ambitious community undertaking to keep such a thing competitive with the plethora of evil browsers out there.

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    • Damage@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I chose my wording accurately, I never mentioned maintaining the whole browser

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  • Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Librewolf

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• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  We need a federated browser.

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  • cosmic_slate@dmv.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • deleted@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      WE NEED A FEDERATED BROWSER.

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  • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Like Tor?

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    • Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      TOR is a forked Firefox.

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      • GustavoFring@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You mean Tor Browser specifically.

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  • ZephyrXero@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Firefox needs to ship with IPFS & IPNS built in, then we’d have a Distributed web. Which is I think what you’re asking for maybe?

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    • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sure, lets do that.

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  • smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    HTTP?

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• comador@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Opera, Vivaldi and Brave are descent alternatives.

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  • Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No. No they aren’t.

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  • s0ckpuppet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Brave is shady af and iirc Opera got bought by some Chinese spyware company.

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    • comador@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I only listed Opera b/c Vivaldi is based on it:

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_(web_browser)

      Vivaldi is absolutely a descent FOSS product, but will agree with the Opera sentiment and have edited my post more accordingly.

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  • LunchEnjoyer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’d argue Firefox is the descent alternative.

    • Opera is Crappy Chinese ad-filled browser
    • Vivaldi, although it’s extremely nice tab management system and unique features, isn’t open source. But probably the better chromium browser of the owns you mentioned.
    • Brave… Is a crypto shilling browser run by a turd wanting to ban same sex marriage

    There are a plethora of sources out there of good reasons not to use these browsers. But seriously, Firefox is an excellent browser, treat yourself to better privacy 🦊

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    • comador@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I only listed Opera because Vivaldi’s based on it, but that’s about where it ends. Vivaldi and FF are the only two I use tbh.

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  • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Each of which depend on chrome and google’s decisions.

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Idk why you’re being downvoted. All of these browsers are chromium browsers.

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