Comment on The Fairphone 5 is less about what comes in the box and more about what you get over the years

Pantherina@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Don’t forget the fact they manufactured it in an oppressive authorization regime, where the sales tax goes to fund over 1 million Uighurs being held in literal concentration camps.

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  • axo@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They make the problem of their supply chain clear. And still, it is probably the most “fair” phone you can get, so I dont understand the critizism really.

    Why arent you criticizing all the other manufacturers, that dont even try to do anything positive? Its always the small companies, that try to improve on things and then get shitted over for not going all the way. I dont understand it…

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    • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Because there are some other manufacturers, e.g. Samsung, which don’t manufacture in China (for the most part), and IMO the problem of centralizing the world’s supply chain in China is more important than what Fairphone is trying to do.

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      • Chriswild@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I don’t understand how manufacturing in Korea is better than China. Hell, I’d call that pretty centralized still because it still relies on the same logistical problems.

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  • theonyltruemupf@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They are making an effort though. Every other manufacturer also produces in China. Fairphone at least pays the workers better and tries to make the supply chain as ethical as possible.

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    • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No the don’t. Samsung, for example, is almost all Made in Vietnam.

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      • ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The Korean OEM has fully invested in Vietnam to reduce costs. I wish other OEMs ranging from Europe to India should invest in Vietnam.

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  • Muyal@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you want something manufactured in a country that isn’t commiting human rights violations then you are not going to find it (not even the US, which is also funding a genocide right now)

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• Nobilmantis@feddit.it ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Google sure is creating a lot of Pixel-fanboys by instilling this myth that if you dont get daddy google’s precious over-the-air updates delivered to your phone in 30 seconds after their release your phone might be at great risk®™ (exactly like if you dont let google play store scan the apps on your device to look for malicious software, like F-Droid, a common known attack vector).

  Because surely Fairphone users are all government officials with nuclear codes and Kim Jong-un’s nudes saved in their notes and teams of indian hackers are 24/7 waiting for a security update to release, so they can unpack the zero-day-vulnerabilities before fairphone gets their release-cycle

  Can you please elaborate further on this “component lifespan” thing? Because I think they were quite clear on the processor life cycle.

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  • Pantherina@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not all components included will get security updates for as long as their OS will.

    Agree that instant updates are not essential for many people, but you dont need 0days to abuse publicly disclosed vulnerabilities.

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    • Nobilmantis@feddit.it ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What components are you talking about? Can you provide some sort of source or reference or something? Are you maybe talking about the data modem?

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      • Pantherina@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes a lot of parts. The Kernel is made for that specific SOC and may not get updated.

        Then you have various parts like the modem are made by Samsung, Broadcomm etc. and need their firmware updates.

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