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Comment on ‘It went nuts’: Thousands join UK parents calling for smartphone-free childhood

fosstulate@iusearchlinux.fyi ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

The elephant in the room is that parental controls development is a total wasteland, and has been for years. There’s no money in it. FAMAG is actively hostile to it and phone OEMs haven’t got a dog in the race and already contend with razor-thin margins. It’s one dimension of a broader political problem of digitization that smarter legislators and politicians have surely noticed by now, which is that unlike human beings, users increasingly don’t have any rights or agency worth a damn, and are treated with with contempt.

I like that a grassroots movement has remembered that parenting should be at the heart of children’s technology access, but I fear such groups’ ‘useful idiot’ value to authoritarian elements up to the same old tricks.

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simple@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
But also apps intended for kids have been complete failures. The only thing they succeeded in was making platforms where advertisers target children easily. Youtube kids feels like a nightmare of elsagate and shovelware, and it’s scary parents are letting their kids use them without realizing just how bad they are.

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- T156@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That might have been partially the intent, but you also don’t see many platforms for kids or teens these days either. When’s the last time that something like Club Penguin was around, rather than everyone having to share the same network/platform?
  
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DrunkenPirate@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
True point.

My IT setup to get control of my daughter’s not-yet-rocketed-addiction is: screentime from Apple (that can be circumvented), seperated wifi for teens with on/off times (still they can use mobile network), blocked ip‘s for insta at router level (still not all IPs in there), and a hacker-style tool called Firewalla to monitor and control their traffic with porn, youth filter-block ability.

For this setup you need some steps beyond standard IT knowhow. And still it’s only 95%. Some day they found how to get through the little holes.

Oh, this effort for 3-4 hrs screen time a day including podcasts and whatsapp.

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- ricdeh@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Wow, this sounds really dystopian. You monitor the porn that your daughters are watching? Then you’re an absolute nut job and maybe you should be the one who should have their technology access regulated.
  
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  - DrunkenPirate@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    She is under 12! Start thinking before you shout
    
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  - kux@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    dystopia is when you limit your child's exposure to pornography. wtf
    
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  - JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yup, I’m disappointed, but most people seem to treat kids as subhuman, not needing the basic right privacy and freedom that they want for adults so much.
    
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    AtmaJnana@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Ahh yes, we should let our 4 and 7 year old kids have unfettered 24-hour access to porn, gore, and combat footage or we are treating them as literal subhuman animals.
    
    Never change Lemmy.
    
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- angrystego@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  How old is she?
  
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