Comment on It’s a dark time to be a tech worker right now
SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 4 months agoI’m not disputing their experiences - I’ve replied otherwise on this thread - but I’m going to guess that a lot of those experienced devs didn’t go through the 2000-2002 ish dot com crash, or maybe even the 2008 recession.
Sometimes the money goes away for a while. The money has currently gone away. Eventually they drop the interest rates, people decide that real estate or EVs aren’t sexy anymore because they’re overbought, and the money floods back in. Then it gets too much, to the point that some kid gets $60M for the idea of selling barbecues and charcoal over the internet, and the cycle repeats.
We thought Keynes fixed this but then decided it was more fun for a handful of people to make shitloads of money and then crash the economy every decade or two.
Spot on. A word of advice to people in the tech field: save while the sun shines because another thing you can’t time besides the market is when the money will be flowing your way.
I’m somewhat optimistic about the long term prospects because if new technology isn’t the future then what is?
But seriously, don’t pretend like your high salary will last a lifetime and plan accordingly.
I don’t think the money is magically just going to come back this time. I doubt that interest rates will ever drop to the levels they were at before the pandemic.
The market is insane right now. Basically every position I see has 1000+ applications. Really wish some of these rookie candidates would go chase gold in some other industry because they’re making it harder for qualified people, and the vast majority of them turn into shit devs.
maegul@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
Some claimed to have been around long enough to gone through the 2008 recession, but dot com crash would certainly be very unlikely.
SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
I’ve been working in tech in one form or another since about 1994 and even before that if you include “writing some software for some guy’s cash register.” I’ve been through a few of these. They suck, but two years from now it’ll be forgotten.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Ohai. I rode the 1998/99 wave, got hit with the crash, took a cut in one job and grabbed a side-hustle, got laid off in 2006 in the company’s 117th round of layoffs (bru-tal), and never been laid-off again. Because if I even smell a whiff of stink-of-death, I’m out. I still have the side-hustle, and in the gaps I just bulk up on it to narrow the gap. Works okay. Now my main gig is union, and since I deliver on my goals and I’m not a sociopath, I have some confidence they’ll keep me around for a few years. That’d be neat.
SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
Yup. I went back into academia, then rotated between that, military, and government work. Now I’m waiting to see if the other shoe drops and I either sponge off my partner or buy a beach house in Mexico.
Agent641@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Whats your side hustle?
Taleya@aussie.zone 4 months ago
I adjusted to the lower tier fish. Less money, but more stable and less stress.
dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Since you survived through the year 2000 you gotta tell us your Y2K story
SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
Oh, that’s a fun one. By the actual Y2K I think I had already transitioned into a dot-commie (where it pretty much was ignored), but the run up was interesting. I was previously in a much more Office Space kind of situation. I was the hot new talent using modern technologies like Perl and Java, but virtually everyone else was writing cobol on green screens for an IBM midrange system, with many many hours dedicated to updating code to use four digit dates. These were the days when news channels were predicting airplanes would fall out of the sky, nuclear plants would melt down, and cash registers would stop working entirely. World ending chaos.
The people around me were doing basically the same job for 30 years. I don’t even know enough cobol to write a joke in it, but we’re not talking about Donald Knuth here. I’m talking about green screen terminals connected via token ring or some kind of crap like that.
This is when Gateway Computer stores were in shopping malls and came with stickers on the front boasting about how they were “Y2K compatible” and were upgradable so that 16 MHz 386SX was the last computer you’d ever need.
Getting old is fun, other than the back pain, organ failure, and that memory thing I can’t remember the name of.
Taleya@aussie.zone 4 months ago
'97 here. Could do this shit in my sleep by now lol