Comment on Tipping culture npcs
betheydocrime@lemmy.world 10 months agoWhether you respect them or not, those jobs still must exist until they are automated away. Casual dining and fine dining restaurants can’t operate without servers–if that was possible, The Invisible Hand Of The Free Market would have eliminated that position centuries ago.
Rediphile@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
I’m saying they need to have some respect for themselves and refuse bullshit ass pay like that. And the vast majority of civilized nations have servers just fine without tipping/bull shit poverty wages. Service is better too.
betheydocrime@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I understand what you’re saying, and what you’re saying is only concerned with individuals, not systems.
What I’m saying is that regardless of how many individual people turn that job down, the job listing at that wage will still exist. Eventually, someone who is down on their luck will become desperate enough to take it because they don’t have any other options left.
They could be homeless people trying to afford the deposit on an apartment, or single dads trying to pay for field trips for their kids, or ex-cons locked out of conventional employment trying desperately to earn an honest living, or college students trying to buy one used textbook, or even uneducated twenty-somethings trying to build work history so they can stop working for tips.
All of those desperate people, the people who have no choice but to tolerate the wage that you have too much self-respect to accept–they deserve nice things too. Their boss is a greedy, insufferable bastard who is willing to pay them the minimum that he is legally required to. By refusing to tip, you are climbing in to the same boat with him, no matter what ideology you shout as you clamber over the gunwales.
Rediphile@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Again, the vast majority of places don’t have this issue of tipping at all.
Capitalism brutally forcing people into work they would otherwise not choose sadly happens almost everywhere, but tipping does not.
betheydocrime@lemmy.world 10 months ago
If all you’re going to do is repeat ideologies while ignoring material conditions, then that’s your call, but I’m done spending my time with you if that’s your choice.