Comment on I've noticed that lemmy as a whole is much more leftist than reddit (outside of political servers of course)

sol@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• bric@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This. There an infinite number of ideologies that you could have, but our first past the post voting system (in the US) only allows for two candidates, so an infinite spectrum gets funneled into two camps.

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  • yata@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Left/right isn’t an exclusively American concept, it is used all over the world regardless of the political system of the country.

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    • sab@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think that’s what they’re saying: in most of the world it’s used as a gradient/spectrum, just a few countries consider it absolutes (you’re either left or right).

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      • bric@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah, that’s why I specified US, there are plenty of places where it’s more of a gradiant, or where left and right are just two of many options. although unfortunately fptp is the norm in most of the world. The US is unusually polarized even among fptp countries, but countries that have better voting systems that allow for more than two parties are the exception, not the norm.

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• jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sure, I’ll just make up my own political philosophy without the benefit of other’s experience, that’ll go GREAT

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• A2PKXG@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Nah, it’s a fairly good way to differentiate between collectivist and individualistic ideas.

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  • dx1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s a whopping two categories (or the gray area between them), which don’t unambiguously refer to “individualism” or “collectivism”, but instead also refer vaguely to associations with dozens of other issues, so it’s actually a worse way of describing those ideas than saying “individualist” or “collectivist”, because you’re no longer even specifically saying that. And “individualist” and “collectivist” is already a terrible way to categorize all political ideas.

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    • A2PKXG@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Environmental protection is collectivist. It’s what is best for everyone. (Including future generations).

      But abortion is a good exception.

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      • dx1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        But what’s best for every individual is what’s best for everyone…

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• OCATMBBL@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s pretty meaningfully different when one side wants to fix the climate and create social and economic policy that benefits the majority, while the other wants to concentrate wealth into the hands of the few at the expense of everyone else, and the climate, and is creating propaganda aimed at the dehumanization of LGBTQ+ and perceived-non-Americans (even when they’re citizens).

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