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Comment on Bridgy Fed, a bridge between the Fediverse and other protocols such as BlueSky, is using an opt-out model and that raises a lot of discussion

rglullis@communick.news ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Should federation between servers be opt-in?

Should Mastodon-compatible clients have posts private-by-default on the UI?

This argument against bridges is beyond stupid. If you are posting on a public network, it’s more than reasonable to work with the expectation that your content will be visible outside of original channel.

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skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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- amju_wolf@pawb.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  They also assert that Bluesky doesn’t federate (it currently doesn’t, but the protocol is designed for federation!) when it’s clear that it now does.
  
  I’m not surprised about the skepticism there though. These are just promises, and we all know that a for-profit entity will happily sacrifice any promies if it means they make more money that way. Also depending on how exactly that federation will work it might be practically useless as well.
  
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  - skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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    nutomic@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    There’s surprisingly little development power behind Bluesky, though, and its recent surge in popularity will no doubt have slowed down nice-to-haves like federation.
    
    I just looked at their Github, and surprisingly Bluesky seems to have less total commits than Lemmy.
    
    On the other hand, ATProto solves a lot of problems Mastodon has (no two servers showing the same list of replies, for one)
    
    This is absolutely solvable with Activitypub, its just that Mastodon developers dont seem to care about it.
    
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GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
How does it work exactly? From a quick look at the docs, it sounds like everything through the bridge would appear as coming from @web.brid.gy. Is that right? If so, that kind of mucks up the standard behavior of Lemmy. Lemmy allows both users and admins to block entire instances, so aggregating instances into one “mega-instance” effectively breaks that functionality. That’s not good from a UX perspective.

I tried searching for some bridges instances but didn’t have any luck. I guess I’m doing it wrong. Does anyone have a real example of something that works?

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- rglullis@communick.news ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  it sounds like everything through the bridge would appear as coming from @web.brid.gy.
  
  Because this is the only current deployment of the bridge. The code is open source, if you want to host/run/manage your own bridge, you can do it.
  
  That was the same issue that I had with fediverser and alien.top. Everyone got so obsessed with the bots from alien.top and caused so much drama that no admin would be interested in using it for the “login with reddit” functionality. If there was a few more other instances running the software, it would have been incredibly more helpful to get people to move away from Reddit while helping bootstrap the niche communities here (which are until today completely lacking in content and not attractive at all for the masses).
  
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  - GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Doesn’t that mean we’d have a proliferation of duplicate content, if multiple bridges connect to the same external services?
    
    I love this idea in theory, but I don’t think it makes sense in the context of Lemmy. Maybe it makes more sense in Mastodon? Or maybe I just misunderstand something.
    
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