Comment on Major western news outlets continue to manufacture consent for israel's Genocide

• Linkerbaan@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  After the Zionists decided to steal Palestine and terrorize the Palestinians, the Palestinians found that not okay and resisted

  Wow such a two sided affair. Someone comes into their land and decides to violently steal it. And then the other side fights back. This must mean that both sides are at fault. Another amazing analysis.

  Israel terrorizes and colonizes the west bank, and the people there fight back. This must mean both sides are at fault!

  A very nuanced analysis thank you for your input once again.

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  • stonedemoman@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    steal Palestine

    Again, this is misinformation. It’s particularly concerning that you are accusing me of not being nuanced when your uncharitable interpretation of the conflict seems to suggest that Israel never had a right to be there in the first place.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine

    “After an Arab uprising against the Ottoman Empire arose during the First World War in 1916, British forces drove Ottoman forces out of the Levant.[3] The United Kingdom had agreed in the McMahon–Hussein Correspondence that it would honour Arab independence in case of a revolt, but in the end, the United Kingdom and France divided what had been what had been Ottoman Syria under the Sykes–Picot Agreement—an act of betrayal in the eyes of the Arabs.”

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

    “The intended boundaries of Palestine were not specified, and the British government later confirmed that the words “in Palestine” meant that the Jewish national home was not intended to cover all of Palestine. The second half of the declaration was added to satisfy opponents of the policy, who had claimed that it would otherwise prejudice the position of the local population of Palestine and encourage antisemitism worldwide by “stamping the Jews as strangers in their native lands”.”

    Your ire should be directed at the British protectorate for the ambiguity that enabled both sides to feel justified in their believed independence. This initial blunder seems to me to have fostered mutual extremism.

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    • NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s particularly concerning that you are accusing me of not being nuanced when your uncharitable interpretation of the conflict seems to suggest that Israel never had a right to be there in the first place.

      I mean yes. Israel has been from the get go, ever since the planning stage, a settler colonialist Apartheid state. The sales pitch has always been "Let's steal Palestinian lands and make them second class citizens".

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      • stonedemoman@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You mean in 1534 when they were permitted by Ottomans to establish a Jewish City-State?

        Or maybe you mean in 1821 when the Jewish adviser and finance minister to the rulers of the Galilee, Haim Farkhi, was murdered and the Ottomans allowed their army to conquer Galilee?

        Or maybe you mean in the late 19th century when they bought land from the Ottomans and peacefully settled?

        Or maybe you mean in 1917 when the Ottomans deported them from Tel Aviv and Gaffa because the Ottomans were at war with the lands they immigrated from?

        Or maybe you mean after 1917 when the onscure instructions of the British Mandate radicalized all of their Arab neighbors against them and galvanized the call to the violent eradication of Israel?

        Or maybe you mean in 1921 and 1929 when Arab mobs violently attacked Jewish population centers?

        Or maybe you mean in 1936-1939 when Arabs launched widespread attacks on both the British and the Jews?

        Is it blatantly obvious how ridiculous your claim is yet, or do I need to keep going?

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