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stonedemoman@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

You mean in 1534 when they were permitted by Ottomans to establish a Jewish City-State?

Or maybe you mean in 1821 when the Jewish adviser and finance minister to the rulers of the Galilee, Haim Farkhi, was murdered and the Ottomans allowed their army to conquer Galilee?

Or maybe you mean in the late 19th century when they bought land from the Ottomans and peacefully settled?

Or maybe you mean in 1917 when the Ottomans deported them from Tel Aviv and Gaffa because the Ottomans were at war with the lands they immigrated from?

Or maybe you mean after 1917 when the onscure instructions of the British Mandate radicalized all of their Arab neighbors against them and galvanized the call to the violent eradication of Israel?

Or maybe you mean in 1921 and 1929 when Arab mobs violently attacked Jewish population centers?

Or maybe you mean in 1936-1939 when Arabs launched widespread attacks on both the British and the Jews?

Is it blatantly obvious how ridiculous your claim is yet, or do I need to keep going?

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NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

You mean in 1534 when they were permitted by Ottomans to establish a Jewish City-State?

Or maybe you mean in 1821 when the Jewish adviser and finance minister to the rulers of the Galilee, Haim Farkhi, was murdered and the Ottomans allowed their army to conquer Galilee?

Or maybe you mean in the late 19th century when they bought land from the Ottomans and peacefully settled?

I'm not even sure what these have to do with modern Israel, which is ideologically a late 19th/early 20th endeavor.

Everything since 1917 was with the intention of creating a Jewish-majority state in Palestine. Palestine that's, for obvious reasons, populated with Palestinians basically everywhere. You can't have a Jewish majority state in Palestine without kicking Palestinians out of their home; it's just not physically possible.

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- stonedemoman@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  I’m not even sure what these have to do with modern Israel, which is ideologically a late 19th/early 20th endeavor.
  
  You don’t think that the established Jewish territory prior to and during the 20th century has anything to do with modern Israel? You think that the revitalization of a Jewish homeland was unique to Zionist ideology when their occupation of both Galilee and Jerusalem was sanctioned by the Ottomans in 1534-1742?
  
  You can’t have a Jewish majority state in Palestine without kicking Palestinians out of their home; it’s just not physically possible.
  
  Of course you can, you just need more than one state. This had been the plan instituted by the British, but the British Mandatory authorities strayed from the plan as I already stated.
  
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  - NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Of course you can, you just need more than one state.
    
    No, because like I said you can't have a state without a majority, or at least a significant minority, of Palestinians. It's geographically impossible. That goes directly counter to the Zionist goal of a Jewish state with as many Jews and as few Palestinians as possible.
    
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    stonedemoman@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Completely baseless. Take it up with the British Mandate authority and the League of Nations that wanted them to
    
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