What do you mean by “real, not idealised”? All such things are ideals until put into practice.
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rikudou@lemmings.world 8 months ago
Not that I think capitalism is good, but how exactly does any other system solve it? And I’m talking about real-world systems, not the idealized ones. Because the made-up unrealistic fable of capitalism has no problem with this either.
irmoz@reddthat.com 8 months ago
rikudou@lemmings.world 8 months ago
I mean that if your argument is communism, let’s talk about the real world one, not the ideal one that doesn’t exist and will never actually be put into practice. Because comparing a real, existing system against an idea is unfair. So either let’s compare real communism with real capitalism, or let’s compare the idea of capitalism with the idea of communism.
As I said, capitalism sucks, but I’m tired of people making comparisons between the real, actually used capitalism and some made up version of communism.
Micromot@feddit.de 8 months ago
Real existing forms of socialism kind of solve the problem by offering free education and programs to support poorer individuals so they can participate in society and enjoy their lives. There isn’t a fully democratic socialist country yet but having parts of socialism already kind of solves these issues.
udon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
IIRC, in former east Germany you couldn’t just study whatever you want (topic of this entire post). If you’re parents went to uni, you can’t. Oversimplified, because of course there were options if you were part of the party, but I’m not sure that strengthens the point.
I don’t know how that worked in Russia.
irmoz@reddthat.com 8 months ago
Again, all things are only “made up” until put into practice.
rikudou@lemmings.world 8 months ago
Is your position really to put words in my mouth? If you rephrase it, I’ll answer.
irmoz@reddthat.com 8 months ago
Also, this isn’t true - capitalism has inequality and unrealised potential built into it.