Comment on Is the bot/troll situation getting worse?
haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 11 months agoI‘m encountering it this exact moment in a piracy discussion where some very abusive people start arguing for IP and excuse the blatant manipulation by calling limited licenses „buying“ and „owning“.
It’s interesting right?
I’m thinking the architecture of the fediverse makes it particularly vulnerable to these sorts of attacks.
I’m pretty sure I’ve spotted bots circle jerking on some subjects also which makes me think there’s a few different sources.
Very interesting indeed.
I‘m starting to report, block and ban accounts from being viewed on my instance that use abusive language but from a systemic standpoint we should find a design solution to make this work.
Reddit had karma for this reason among others. People needed to make helpful contributions to prove they are able to function in the group.
For many reasons this is not implemented in the fediverse but a design solution would be good.
If I was designing an anti troll/bot system I’d implement a few things. Let’s call any bad actor on here a bot/troll or broll for ease.
Very good ideas! Any idea if something like this already exists? If not, shall we work on something? I have some experience in python if that helps.
You can check if text is ai/llm generated and an automated api check before posting and immediate ban if found
If this LLM-detection function ever results in false positives, this system will be banning innocent people.
Also there are many, many cases where a person openly displays results from an LLM, without it being in any way antisocial.
Here’s the thread. The readers here can judge for themselves how much abuse haui_lemmy was receiving: lemmy.world/comment/7230392
So these trolls’ tactic is to disagree with you about semantics?
No, not really.
Okay here. Since you want to mark me as a troll now, I’m just gonna stop being polite about how I do this. Because the polite way Om trying to do this is coming across to you as inauthentic, and the inauthenticity is coming across as trolling, and now you’re talking about applying this proposed mega ban hammer to me.
I don’t believe that you’re capable of seeing this clearly, and I won’t believe it until I you have linked to at least ten comments, in other threads, that you think represent this particular type of toxicity you’re complaining about.
Whatever you think mate. Feel free to imagine anything you like.
If you have arguments, feel free to argue. If not, just go somewhere else.
ikidd@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I followed the thread you’re talking about, you might be a bit overly sensitive to what constitutes a conversation on the internet. I don’t find the trolling any worse or better today vs. last week or last year.
You might want to make an account over at beehaw, they like to stay pretty sheltered over there and have defederated from, well, pretty much everyone.
haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 11 months ago
Well, I‘m not a bit overly sensitive I just dont like to be manipulated and insulted. It frankly do not care how people treat their family and friends. Having a discussion without personal attacks is normal and everything else is normalized abuse.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 11 months ago
You mentioned them calling something buying and selling. Did they also insult and manipulate you?
haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 11 months ago
Not sure if this is a sincere question.
Manipulative and degrading rhetoric is what I‘m talking about. Bad faith arguments, assuming that someone arguing in a certain way must be naive or stupid, etc.